DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hiya.... just to
let you know.... mid-air collision of 2 private planes over the city
of denver tonight.... older nw neighborhood. so far, no one dead that
they know of on the ground but 6 injuries. of course, all on board
both planes are dead. debris over many blocks
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
oops, correction....
3 people now confirmed dead on the ground
BARDSQUILL:
try to find out
whom if possible--been some suspected assasinations lately
ASBESTOS
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
oddly, the corner
one of the planes went down is where the old house of former Colorado gov
and u.s. secretary of transportation, federico pena, used to live.... don't
know if any of his family still live there
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
no i.d.'s of victims
being released yet
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
i grew up just
about 6 blocks from this crash so i know the area very well
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah, my first
thought was what did the radar look like
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
i guess it happened
a couple of hours ago
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
but i just found
out because we rarely watch tv
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
if they had gone
down in any other direction by just a handful of blocks, thousands would
have been killed because it was during rush hour and the site is very close
to the main I-25 and downtown
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
8 search teams
out now trying to recover body and plane parts and whatever they can find.
power and natural gas has been turned off in the neighborhood
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok, time of collison
was 5:20pm MDT
twin engine turbo-prop cheyenne and a single engine cessna
BARDSQUILL:
heavy chemtrails
being reported
Godlike
Productions -- Message Board Will pull up radar
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
thnx
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah, the chemtrails
have been really bad lately, exceptionally bad
BARDSQUILL:
Am seeing a bit
of a stationary vortex on radar, will crop the movie and post
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok thanks.... what
time is that at?
BARDSQUILL:
more in New Mexico
than CO tho
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm
BARDSQUILL:
current Infra-red
loop
BARDSQUILL:
spans 12 hours
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
wonder what kind
of electronics are in Pena's old house
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
probably none but
one wonders
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
St. Anthony's Central
Hospital treating injured
BARDSQUILL:
any survivors inside
the plane?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
none
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
one plane came
down perfectly horizontal according to eye witness
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
a flat spin?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
neither plane had
survivors
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they don't even
know yet how many on board but they think 1 in one plane and 2 in the other
for a total of 3..... but that's not confirmed yet
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
police on the scene
in less than 3 minutes
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
now that's really
something
BARDSQUILL:
keep reporting
as long as ye can, gonna mess with radar
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
eyewitness says
the police were there nearly simultaneously to the crash
BARDSQUILL:
M. just signed
on, briefed him too
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
good
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
3421 W. Moncrieff
is one address but don't have the other address yes..... each plane went
into a house.
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
natural gas being
shut off for the entire area. gonna be very cold night for a ton of
folks
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
this is a very
old, historic area. mostly brick or stone homes.... victorians, bungalows,
etc
BARDSQUILL:
got an address
near there so I can zoom in on it from aerial recon?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
some guy says a
similar crash of small planes (cessna and piper cub) in 1974 over the nearby
suburb of Wheat Ridge but i don't remember it myself
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah the address
of one of the houses where one of the planes hit is 3421 West Montcrieff
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
or Moncrieff
BARDSQUILL:
got a zip?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
80211
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
and 80212
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
right on the border
of the two
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
go with 80211
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Montcrieff is one
of those 1/2 streets that go nowhere. Nearest intersection of regular
streets is West 26th Avenue and Julian Street for one of the crash sites
BARDSQUILL:
MapQuest:
Maps: map
BARDSQUILL:
zoom around on
that then send link back
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok. btw,
people are finding body parts in their yards
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
for blocks around
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
here.... 2600 Julian
Street
MapQuest:
Maps: map
BARDSQUILL:
Zooming in
MapQuest:
Maps: map
MapQuest:
Maps: map
MapQuest:
Maps: map
MapQuest:
Maps: map
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
here's the other
crash site.... 3421 West Moncrieff Place
MapQuest:
Maps: map
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
btw, collison was
1/2 mile nw of Invesco Field in downtown denver
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
did you get the
2600 Julian Street site?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
remember, we're
dealing with two separate sites
BARDSQUILL:
yup
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
250 police and
75 firefighters on the scene
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
50 homes without
power until midnite at least
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
any dead left in
the aircraft will not be recovered until tomorrow morning, saturday
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
red cross rescue
site located at 3131 Osceola Street
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
entire city of
Denver on accident alert which means don't call the cops unless your car
accident involves injury
BARDSQUILL:
9NEWS.com -
Newsroom
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeps, that's one
of the channels we're watching
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Irving is one block
east of Julian.... onsite reports say Julian
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they've changed
their minds now..... extracation teams and coroner are arriving at the scene
to try and remove any bodies from the planes
BARDSQUILL: linking the news and looking around
at radar and stuff
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
this news report
is not quite accurate
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Guardian Angels
have arrived on the scene (9:30pm) to patrol the area. Being assigned
by the command post. Salvation Army is now on the scene. Denver
Police are circling site in helicopters. hmmmm. wonder why.
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
damn
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
someone just sent
me a virus over the internet, not email
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
damn damn
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Planes
Collide Over West Denver, 3 Confirmed Dead
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok plane 1 - downed
at 3421 W. Moncrieff Place - 1 body recovered, presumed to be pilot.
Cesna 172 en route from Centennial Airport (sw of Denver) to Cheyenne, Wyoming
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
plane 2 - downed
at 3225 West 26th Avenue. Piper Cheyenne en route from Jeffco Airport
(nw of Denver) to Centennial Airport. Details on dead unknown.
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
why the hell would
someone send me a virus over this?
BARDSQUILL:
gadzzz
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
this is ludicrous
BARDSQUILL:
clue that something
significant happnin
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
what's so special
about a seeming simple aircrash of two small planes that a virus would be
sent to me over the internet and not email..... something to stop me
immediately..... not just everyone can do that
DENVER
RESEARCHER: this pisses me
off
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok, the Cesna 172
was registered to E.D.B. Air, Inc., of Englewood, Colorado (a suburb just
south of Denver)
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
the Piper was
registered to Larson Lee, DBA of Northglenn, Colorado (suburb due north of
Denver)
BARDSQUILL:
If you got a virus
don't reboot til you zap ot
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah, running norton
now
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Police are telling
people to report it if they find debris but not to touch it
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
SWAT team (????)
searching for debris
BARDSQUILL:
McAfee Stinger
is a good free virus zapper for trojans
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok, they have closed
off West 23rd Avenue north to West 38th Avenue and Federal Boulevard west
to Lowell Boulevard
BARDSQUILL:
Any FBI on the
scene?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they're not saying
BARDSQUILL:
usually a sign
that something is screwy
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
but swat teams????
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
RTD sending busses
to scene to help people leave the area
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
house on Moncrieff....
south and east side of house blew out after plane hit it
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmmm. now
they're saying no one in the houses were killed, only hurt. but there's
four fatalities which appear to be people from the aircrafts
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
jesus, the Montcrieff
plane crashed next door to a 13 story senior citizen's home
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they're saying
some of the passengers were alive after impact but they couldn't get the
plane door open and they're dead now
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
man, helluva way
to go
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
this was at the
Moncrieff site
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
NTSB onsite since
the beginning
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
7 injuries on the
ground including 2 little girls
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
one plane engine
fell 3 blocks away into a yard
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
check out channel
4 for pics of plane tail sticking out of roof
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
piper wing on the
ground.... police are guarding it
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
now saying not
a head-on crash but one clipped the wing of the other
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
correction on piper
model.... piper cherokee, not piper cheyenne
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
no flight plan
for one of the planes
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
2 year old little
girl ok after stitches to head
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
god, you'd think
the reporters could get the plane names right
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
collision happened
at 7600 feet
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
name of pilots
unknown at this time
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Cessna Skyhawk
172 was being flown by Key Lime Air and did not file a flight plan
BARDSQUILL:
still messin with
radar
DENVER
RESEARCHER: ne guy ran
out of his house, screaming a plane hit my house, at which point the entire
house blew up behind him
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
now they're saying
two dead on each aircraft
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
Domino's and Burger
King and a local bar, 3Dogs, is sending in food and beverages
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok, Norton says
I'm clean now
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
firemen went into
one house and were evacuating the people when it blew up too.... thankfully
it blew away from them and they all survived
BARDSQUILL:
gawd
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah, the stories
are unreal. i can't believe everyone on the ground survived
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
did you see, one
crash site was next door to a 13 story senior citizen's home?
BARDSQUILL:
almost have a radar
clip, subtle but seems like a stationary thing just west of denver
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
worst scene is
that in the one plane two people were alive and screaming but they couldn't
get the door open so they died
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm
BARDSQUILL:
see it now
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
k
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
where?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
got a link?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
btw, very different
stories between channels 4 and 9
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
interesting
BARDSQUILL:
denvani2.gif
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
"identity of crash
victims not being released"
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah i see i tnow
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
interesting
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
streetlights are
out in a much broader area than the basic power outage area. wonder
why
BARDSQUILL:
pretty subtle
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah, my thoughts
too
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
we just called
a friend in the area and found this out
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmmmmm, wait
a sec here
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they are saying
two dead in both planes.... inside both planes..... so why are swat teams
out supposedly looking for body parts????
BARDSQUILL:
almost like something
blew up
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah but apparently
not something on the ground because there's no reported deaths from the ground
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm, another
thought
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
that radar.....
Jeffco Airport (aka, Jefferson County Airport) is nw of Denver, up against
the foothills
BARDSQUILL:
any arrays up there?
BARDSQUILL:
believe there is
from old story
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmmmmmm.
it's close to Boulder, home of everything
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
don't know about
at Jeffco Airport proper
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
police are asking
all people to stay away from the area
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
big area
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm, something
contagious in one of those planes?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok, new news
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
1 plane went down
in flat spiral, totally silent, no smoke or fire, no engine noise
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm, this morning
another small plane crashed into a house in los angeles
BARDSQUILL:
GWEN radar tower
in Pueblo
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah that's south
of colorado springs
BARDSQUILL:
these are the baddies,
uncertain of range tho
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
well, colorado
springs is home of serious stuff
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
i sent you all
the stuff on there long ago
BARDSQUILL:
yup, transmitter
diameters probably cover the whole state of CO at least
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm, this is
weird
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
denver fire chief
said of the site that didn't blow up where the plane crashed in the backyard
was only about 10' by 25'
BARDSQUILL:
implying that there
were explosions away from crash site?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmm, reporting
that power has been restored to all but about 50 houses
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah i'm not sure
but i find that kinda odd
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
i hope you're logging
this im.... would be interesting to go back through it later
BARDSQUILL:
yea an why body
parts everywhere?
BARDSQUILL:
logging, yep
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah, why are swat
teams out looking for body parts when they are saying all the passengers
and pilot bodies are still in the planes?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
and why do they
need swat teams???? residents in this middle class neighborhood are
gonna STEAL 'em????
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
it's bizarre
BARDSQUILL:
did your friend
mention any Feds on the scene?
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
he said he can't
see .... opened his front door and it's totally black
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
and he's quite
aways away
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they've brought
in a crane to start removing wreckage already.... what is this???? first
they said they were gonna leave the dead people in the planes until morning
and now they've gone in and removed them already and have brought in a
crane. pretty damn fast work
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
hmmmm, now they
are saying the Piper was registered to a private party.... .that's not what
they said before
BARDSQUILL:
smell a rat, yep
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yep
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
and you know i
hate to admit that
BARDSQUILL:
heh, I admit that
every day
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
cessna registered
to a business operating out of Centennial Airport
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
the piper was
registered to a private party. that's what they're saying now
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
3225 West 26th
Avenue is the exact address of the crash site I've been calling W.26th and
Julian
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
whoa..........
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they just announced
the area of West 23rd Avenue north to West 38th Avenue and Federal Boulevard
west to Lowell Boulevard is closed to EVERYONE. stay out!
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
but the blackout
of streetlights is a much larger area than this
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they've stopped
reporting on all the stations
BARDSQUILL:
geez, hope it wasn't
chemicals
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
yeah me too
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
ok the reason they
keep saying the street intersections differently is because 3225 W. 26th
Avenue is between Irving Street and Julian Street. duh.
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
god i must be tired
to have missed that
BARDSQUILL:
yup, I'm fading
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
they've stopped
reporting so i think i'm gonna head for bed
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
later my friend.
thanks for your help on this
DENVER
RESEARCHER:
shit, thanks for
even caring
BARDSQUILL:
I'll send da log
 |
UPDATE:
All three people aboard a single-engine Cessna 172 Skyhawk were killed when
their plane crashed into a home in the 3400 block of West Moncrieff Place.
Columbine High School
graduate
Jonathan
Ladd,
21,
[Columbine High
School massacre] was piloting the plane.
The names of his two passengers were not
released. [Passengers since confirmed, read below]
The Cessna collided with a twin-engine Piper Cheyenne II, which landed
upside down in a backyard near 26th and Irving. Both people on that plane
died. Lee
Larson, 58, a broker who also owned airplanes at Centennial, was identified
as that plane's owner. His passenger was
51-year-old
Fred Greg White of Westminster. |
|
Denver
Post.com |
One
aircraft got warning before crash that killed 5
The pilot of the Cessna was identified as Jonathan
Ross Ladd, 20, of Littleton. Authorities did not release the names
of the other two victims on that plane, pending final results of tests by
the coroner's office. But based on several sources, they are believed to
be Curt Maxey and Isaac Murrow, both 22 and residents
of Hot Sulphur Springs.
A friend of all three presumed victims, Chris
Dahmer, and his mother, Ruth, told The Denver Post late Saturday that
Chris Dahmer decided at the last minute not to join the flight to Cheyenne.
Maxey's relatives in Hot Sulphur Springs told
9News that the coroner's office informed
them Curt Maxey likely was a victim, and that Murrow's family had been told
the same thing.
Ladd, a survivor of the 1999
Columbine High School massacre, had his
private pilot's license, records show. |
Bowling for
Columbine
