EDITOR: This almost feels like Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Richard Dreyfus on the Devil's Tower watching the scout ships come in [the Madonna Object], but is this all?  No, suddenly looming in the heavens is the Mother of Mothers, a dark mysterious Behemoth.

Date: 9/29/00 10:04:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Any idea what the object in lower left corner of the picture is? It almost looks as if the sun is reflecting off its right side.

MESSAGE BOARD: 04:49:56 PM 09/30/00

Well, it looks like an object (the circular thing), but...

A. Size is -huge- as it appears close to the sun (being enveloped in the CME discharge)

B. There is not enough light reflection for me to believe it is totally solid.

So, it's either a large flying saucer or it's Nibiru....

Or, it's a much smaller object that has come from behind Sol with it's own attendant gas cloud or debris field.

Date: 10/1/00 7:47:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Twenty years ago I was reading excellent book written by some American astronomer (forgot his name) describing instant space travel by using a black hole, based on Einstein-Rosen's bridge theory (from here all space travel wormhole stories originate). This theory implies that on the exit side should be something opposite to the black hole, a white hole. A Sun.

That what Ambilac group predicted could well be, not the Sun birth of a Planet, but arrival of king-size ships not much unlike Death Star from Light Works.

All the best.


Date: 10/4/2000 1:45:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time

My name is David Sereda. I am the author of a new book, yet to be published, called, "Evidence 2001, The Case For NASA UFOs." In my research, I studied the cameras NASA uses to see objects that are above the magnetic frequency of the visible light spectrum. Even NASA's black and white video cameras on the shuttle can see into the near ultraviolet spectrum. If an object is only visible in these upper spectra of light, they are very peculiar. This is because any star has energy or mass visible in all known spectra of light. To only be visible in the upper spectrum gives us the signature of a very high energy object and could be why the object appears translucent.

The camera that the madonna object was photographed with may be capable of seeing into the near UV spectra of light. I need to research this fact further. Also, I looked on the NASA website for LASCO and did find the image of the Madonna object as per date and time of exposure. I checked the other cameras and did not see the same image. The time of the image photograph may be so precise that the object did not appear in any other minute as the other cameras took pictures of the sun in nearby time minutes, but not at the exact same minute. This means that either the object is moving at a background speed that is very fast or that the object is only visible in the spectrum of light which the LASCO C2 camera provides.

As to the rings or round disc-like shape of the object, stars or background lights seem to appear through the ring portion making the object appear translucent. The object in the center appears to be dark and of solid mass. The ring shapes may be some kind of a magnetic field effect around the mass object caused by the interaction of the sun's radiation, which would indicate that the object has to be nearer to the sun than an object billions of miles in the distance. If this were Nibiru, it would not be moving as fast at it appears to be moving against the rleative movement of the sun, unless there is something about Nibiru that we do not know.

If the solid object is moving as quickly as it appears to be relative to the sun, perhaps it could be a nearer field object between the LASCO camera and the sun. The ring-shape around the object may be caused due to the object being out of focus in the near field of the camera. But for an object to be near the field of the camera and not be nearly and completely fuzzed out while the camera's lens is focused on infinity towards the sun would seem unlikely. When camera lenses are focused on infinity towards distant objects, smaller near-field objects fade and blurr right out of the picture. Most camera lenses focus on infinity after an object is some fifty feet away from the camera. Anything after that can have good depth of field against a background object and should not produce a blurring or out of focus ring around the object.

If we can verify the depth of field of this camera (LASCO C2) and know where its focal length is (I imagine this is a telescopic lens), and if it is a telescopic lens, then the object in the picture could not possibly be an out of focus near field object. This is because with telescopic lenses, a near-field object would not be visible in the lens at all. Only a slight distortion of the light bending around the near-field object would accur and that would be nearly unrecognizeable.

I really think the odds are that there is something very large out there. It is moving so fast (check the frames per second on LASCO to see if the movement of this object is in real time or not) then we should all be mystified and perhaps concerned that maybe this is a passing meteor or unidentified flying object.


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