11/7/02 3:00:43 AM Pacific Standard Time
"Afghanistan to Sumatra, at the different latitudes and longitudes shown
and
that I have presented in this article, covers a lot of ground, and seismic
waves moving through the Earth don't cover that much ground in one minute,
unless it is either one massive and unprecedented earthquake event, unlike
an event we have ever seen and witnessed, or the earthquake was actually
several events in different locations all at once. Jim's post indicates
they
were all one event: "For example his 7.1 Malay Peninsula quake and his 6.6
Afghanistan earthquake are grouped together with the 7.7 in Northern
Sumatera, Indonesia and all happened at the same time. The site he
references even says that readings grouped together are a single seismic
event." If that statement is true, then Jim, and the sites in question,
have
all possibly admitted to an earth shattering single earthquake event never
before seen in the recollections of modern recorded history. The people
deserve the right to have this information and to see it, even if it was
made through an error in judgement on the part of Jim and the seismic
services in question. Maybe we can get at the truth; whether it was one
event or several."
Dear Jeff Rense;
Lets analyze Jim the DDT [Disinform - Discredit & Trash] specialist's
info
and data, comparing his information to the FACTS, and see just how far off
base I was with my original post to you Mr. Rense. The FACTS in this
updated
article is worth the read alone.
Sherwood Ensey
tuatha@cybermesa.com
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From Jim
JTR_IV@hotmail.com
11-5-2
Mr. Rense,
On November 4th your site published an article from Sherwood Ensey
regarding
earthquakes and a cover-up by the USGS. Everything in this report is
incorrect.
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[Sherwood: The first D in DDT is to "Disinform" - something that Jim has
developed into an art form. Lets see how far off base I am, and just how
incorrect I am with my previous information. Jim claims "Everything" in my
report is incorrect. Let's examine that claim:
Redpuma claims at this page http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma.html,
despite it's so called "Disclaimer" that it:
- provides rapid information on the occurrence of strong earthquakes
world-wide
- features a high reliability by compiling data from many observatories
- excludes false alarms through data association
http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma.html
NOTE: * PROVIDES A HIGH RELIABILITY BY COMPILING DATA FROM MANY
OBSERVATORIES
* EXCLUDES FALSE ALARMS THROUGH
DATA ASSOCIATION
That page in turn refers you directly to this page:
RedPuma at the Swiss Seismological Service in Zurich, Switzerland
http://seismo.ethz.ch/
Which in turn takes you to this page:
http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_plus6_list.html
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***Jim wrote:
Sherwood Ensey was basing this article on the Swiss earthquake page that
uses raw, unconfirmed reports.
http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_ami_list.html
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[Sherwood: The data I took my information from is from the "6+ List and
Waveforms" page at redpuma
http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_plus6_list.html
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***Jim wrote:
There are disclaimers all over site. The primary disclaimer reads:
http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_disclaimer.html
******************
[Sherwood: Jim bases most if not all of his argument around the disclaimer
page. If Redpuma is so unreliable, and it's data can't be trusted, then why
does Redpuma make the claim:
* PROVIDES A HIGH RELIABILITY BY COMPILING DATA FROM MANY OBSERVATORIES
* EXCLUDES FALSE ALARMS THROUGH DATA ASSOCIATION
Then directs you to a page, which in turn directs you to the "6+ List and
Waveforms" page????
[Sherwood : Again, Jim bases most if not all of his DDT attack on my
information, on this disclaimer, yet, Redpuma makes the claim that it's
information on it's "6+ List and Waveforms" page is reliable and excludes
false alarms. So what is it - reliable or unreliable? Jim, through his
claims, seems to think that the information is unreliable and wrong.
*********
***Jim posted:
Please note!
This page is intended for seismologists at the various observatories. Its
interpretation is not always easy and you may draw wrong conclusions by
just
reading the information as it appears here. Specifically, both locations
and
magnitude values can be substantially wrong even within an event group.
This
is often the case for automatic locations, but may as well be for manual
locations, depending on the geometry of the recording network and the
earthquake.
Please understand, that unfortunately we cannot answer any questions
regarding this page by phone.
Further information about the concept of RedPuma can be found on and below
the main RedPuma web-page with the URL http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma .
A good web-page to view the recent seismically is the one provided by the
NEIC in Golden, Colorado:
http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin.html
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***Jim wrote:
Despite these disclaimers, Mr. Ensey tried to interpret the data and failed
miserably. His earthquakes are all listed, but he took incorrect wrong data
and jumped to the conspiracy conclusion.
For example his 7.1 Malay Peninsula quake and his 6.6 Afghanistan
earthquake
are grouped together with the 7.7 in Northern Sumatera, Indonesia and all
happened at the same time. The site he references even says that readings
grouped together are a single seismic event. The Sumatera [Sherwood Note:
Jim can't even spell Sumatra correctly] quake is listed on the USGS site
and
has been in the news.
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[Sherwood: Let's examine the data from the earthquakes, i.e., location and
times, for the Malay & Afghanistan earthquakes at Redpuma vs. the USGS
information for the Sumatra earthquake. The data was copied directly from
the sources in question.
Redpuma data http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_plus6_list.html:
02Nov2002 01:27:42.3 36.2N 71.5E 10 mb=5.4 M*SED AFGHANISTAN-TAJIKISTAN
BOR
02Nov2002 01:27:42.3 36.2N 71.5E 10 MS=6.6 M*SED AFGHANISTAN-TAJIKISTAN
BOR
02Nov2002 01:26:02.9 6.7N 102.1E 10 MS=7.1 M*SED MALAY PENINSULA
The 7.1 Malay earthquake happened at 01:26 HRS on November 2, 2002, at 6.7N
102.1E
The 6.6 Afghanistan earthquake happened at 01:27 HRS on November 2, 2002,
at
36.2N 71.5E
The two earthquake locations are so FAR APART from one another, clearly
shown by the latitude and longitude indicated for each earthquake, that
there is no possible way that the two earthquakes could be one single
earthquake event grouped together, unless of course, that section of the
ENTIRE PLANET was experiencing a massive earthquake. It is clear that Jim
needs a lesson in geography, and that the two earthquakes are TWO separate
events. That fact is clearly shown at the USGS site, and further explained
below.
USGS data http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/last_seven_days.html:
2002/11/02 01:26:11.5 2.997 96.082 33
7.7 NORTHERN SUMATRA,
INDONESIA.
2002/11/02 01:27:27.5 35.758 74.469 33 5.3
NORTHWESTERN KASHMIR
The USGS shows an earthquake near Afghanistan on its list, indicated above,
in Kashmir, near Afghanistan but once again, indicated by the latitude and
longitude of the two earthquakes, they are near each other, but not close
enough to be considered the same earthquake. A further explanation of this
statement is in the next paragraph.
The 7.7 Sumatra earthquake happened at 01:26 HRS on November 2, 2002 at
2.997N 96.082E
The 7.1 Malay earthquake happened at 01:26 HRS on November 2, 2002 at 6.7N
102.1E
The two earthquakes occurred well apart from each other, clearly shown by
the latitude and longitude indicated for each earthquake. The same thing
happened with the Yukon Territory earthquake and the Alaska earthquake on
November 3, 2002. Once again, even though the earthquakes happened at
nearly
the same time, in NO way can the two earthquakes in the Malay & Sumatra
region be the same earthquake that took place in Kashmir & Afghanistan
at
the same time, unless of course, that entire portion of the planet was
involved in one massive earthquake event, which raises some serious
questions about why that whole area was involved in one massive earthquake
event, an area that would encompass tens of thousands of square miles -
making it a large scale seismic event unheard of in modern history. If Jim
is willing to concede to that as a fact, then I will be more than glad to
concede to the fact that all of the earthquake's were one massive event,
but
facts presented by the USGS and Redpuma, all of which are shown above, and
taken off of their official earthquake pages, seem to indicate that the
earthquakes in question were in fact separate events, even though they
happened at nearly the same time.
"This "confirms what we are beginning to see worldwide -- that earthquakes
can be triggered by other earthquakes at great distances, more so than we
had thought before," Robert Smith, a University of Utah professor of
geology
and geophysics, said in a statement."
Dated November 4, 2002, in a Reuters News Release, Washington, DC, Alaska
Quake Triggers Multiple Yellowstone Quakes, Too
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***Jim wrote:
His Vanuatu Islands quake is recorded on the USGS site even though he
claims
it is not. It is listed as a 5.1 quake and Tuatha seems to ignore the fact
that 3 of the 5 readings for the Vanuatu quake were in the 5 range.
******************
[Sherwood: Let's examine the Vanuatu earthquake information at Redpuma vs.
the USGS information, and once again, set the record straight.
Redpuma data http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_plus6_list.html:
01Nov2002 13:41:52.6 17.8S 166.5E 10 mb=6.0 M*SED VANUATU ISLANDS
01Nov2002 13:41:52.6 17.8S 166.5E 10 MS=7.7 M*SED VANUATU ISLANDS
01Nov2002 13:42:27.0 19.6S 169.3E400 M =5.1 M*NEI VANUATU ISLANDS
01Nov2002 13:42:27.6 19.6S 169.3E400 M =5.1 M*NEI VANUATU ISLANDS
01Nov2002 13:42:14.0 19.2S 169.7E250 mb=5.4 M*GSR VANUATU ISLANDS
Redpuma shows five earthquake events in the Vanuatu Islands region
happening
on November 1, 2002, at approximately 13:41 to 13:42 HRS. All are within
close proximity of each other. The first event was a 6.0, the second event
a
7.7, and the following three events in the 5.1 to 5.4 range.
USGS data http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/last_seven_days.html:
2002/11/01 13:42:27.5 -19.65 169.275 400 5.1 VANUATU
ISLANDS
It appears, based on comparison information, that the USGS based it's 5.1
reading on one singe event, rather than looking at the total information
coming out of the event, and that the USGS preferred to base it's
earthquake
posting on one of the lower magnitude readings. Based on that reasoning,
the
USGS abandoned the higher magnitude reading of 7.7 for a lower reading. I
call this fudging the data - cooking the books - scrubbing the info. Jim
even admits to the other readings: "Tuatha seems to ignore the fact that
3
of the 5 readings for the Vanuatu quake were in the 5 range." I didn't
ignore the fact, I merely posted the higher reading, in order to more
correctly reflect the peak magnitude of the earthquake, something that the
USGS was apparently unwilling to do.
******************
***Jim wrote:
Mr. Ensey has a reputation for putting out bad information based on his
incorrect understanding of a variety of sources. His earthchanges group is
heavily moderated so that people cannot point out his flawed information.
Mr. Ensey is attempting to support the Mark Hazlewood Planet X scam.
Jim http://www.planet-x.150m.com
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[Sherwood: It is clear by the FACTS that I have presented in this updated
article; FACTS which Jim did not present to you, or was unwilling to
present
with his DDT post to you Mr. Rense. I conclude that Jim was and is more
interested in conducting a Disinformation - Discredit & Trash attack
on me,
and on my continuing research of the Earth Changes, rather than to present
the facts about the case. What I have done is to present the FACTS about
the
information I based my original article on, FACTS that clearly bear out the
truth in my original article, and a lot more.
Jim has a long running reputation of using DDT tactics against those who
disagree with him, and is more interested in personal attacks, than he is
in
getting the real FACTS out to the public. Jim chooses what is negative,
like
the disclaimer, and then focuses his entire argument around the negative,
around the DDT, rather than presenting the FACTS of his case. Jim has been
doing this for months now, and even more, none of us really know who this
Jim character is for sure. He uses a host of aliases at various sites,
message boards, and groups on the Internet, careful not to use his real
name. That FACT alone should tell you volumes about what this character is
really about, and what possibly motivates and drives him to do what he does
in the way of personally attacking others, repeatedly.
It is clear, within the FACTS I have presented in this updated article that
there is more going on with these earthquakes than what the powers-that-be
are willing to tell the general public, and that the powers-that-be want
this information suppressed at any and all costs.
The truth and the FACTS surrounding these earthquakes must be told, and the
public has a right and a clear need to be told this information.
If indeed, there was one very massive and large earthquake, which happened
at the same time as indicated by the FACTS presented in this post, and that
earthquake encompassed the suspected tens of thousands of square miles it
appears to have covered, then this is information which can't be ignored,
because it tells us that something very serious is underway on this planet.
Afghanistan to Sumatra, at the different latitudes and longitudes shown and
that I have presented in this article, covers a lot of ground, and seismic
waves moving through the Earth don't cover that much ground in one minute,
unless it is either one massive and unprecedented earthquake event, unlike
an event we have ever seen and witnessed, or the earthquake was actually
several events in different locations all at once. Jim's post indicates
they
were all one event: "For example his 7.1 Malay Peninsula quake and his 6.6
Afghanistan earthquake are grouped together with the 7.7 in Northern
Sumatera, Indonesia and all happened at the same time. The site he
references even says that readings grouped together are a single seismic
event." If that statement is true, then Jim, and the sites in question,
have
all possibly admitted to an earth shattering single earthquake event never
before seen in the recollections of modern recorded history. The people
deserve the right to have this information and to see it, even if it was
made through an error in judgement on the part of Jim and the seismic
services in question. Maybe we can get at the truth; whether it was one
event or several. Either way, the information I have presented in this
updated article, more than vindicates my original article.
I trust in your journalistic integrity Mr. Rense; to do the right thing,
and
to publish this information as a new and updated article, and to give to
the
justice and credit it deserves..
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Original Article:
Hello Jeff...
Here is some more earthquake information that happened within the last few
days you may find to be of as great an interest as the Ascension Island
earthquake that I sent to you earlier. I own and moderate a worldwide
discussion group, as well as publish material related to the Earth Changes.
Sherwood Ensey
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Earthquake Information Being Swept Under the Rug
Here is a powerful/massive 7.1 magnitude earthquake that happened over the
weekend, which I did not find on the USGS list. Guess the USGS simply
overlooked it. 02Nov2002 01:26 HRS UT 7.1 MALAY PENINSULA Location: 6.7N
102.1E
Here is a powerful 6.6 magnitude earthquake that happened over the weekend,
which I did not find on the USGS list. Guess the USGS was asleep when this
one happened. 02Nov2002 01:27 HRS UT 6.6 AFGHANISTAN-TAJIKISTAN BORDER
Location: 36.2N 71.5E
Here is a powerful/massive 7.7 magnitude earthquake that happened on
Friday,
which I did not find on the USGS list. Guess the USGS simply overlooked
this
one too. 01Nov2002 13:41 HRS UT 7.7 VANUATU ISLANDS Location: 17.8S 166.5E
6+ List and Waveforms http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_plus6_list.html
More and more proof is mounting that the USGS, like NASA and many other US
government agencies, are simply sweeping data under the rug in hopes the
public, and especially the mainstream media will not see the information.
Anyone beginning to feel like a mushroom yet? [For those that are not
aware - this is a joke about mushrooms that are grown in the dark and fed
poop - crap - excrement.]
The funny thing here, and it really is funny [at least from my
perspective],
is that the biggest mushrooms are the mainstream media here in the US. What
an insult to the time honored institution of Freedom of the Press and
journalism.
Anyone that would like to forward this, and the information on the
Ascension
Island earthquake to the mass media, is more than welcome to do so.