SUN RANT NOV 02

Alchemike: hey...you still here???
BARDSQUILL: heyyy
Alchemike: http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20020918/103236120009.html
Alchemike: debunked here...
Alchemike: http://www.snopes.com/science/sunboom.htm
BARDSQUILL: yea, got that somewheres
BARDSQUILL: gonna look at sun see if it's blown up
BARDSQUILL: nop
Alchemike: maybe Selo's [Lakota] off by a few years...
Alchemike: whos...
Alchemike: whoa
Alchemike: maybe you seen this...but dunno...
Alchemike: ok...that sun story...quotes a guy supposedly named dr. piers van der meer...
BARDSQUILL: yea, trouble is, I can't locate him
Alchemike: well, i located somethin...
Alchemike: http://almaz.com/nobel/physics/1984b.html
Alchemike: http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1984/meer-autobio.html
Alchemike: simon???
BARDSQUILL: hmm, Simon, Peter, wonder if it's the same dude
Alchemike: ...did you read this guy's bio???
Alchemike: simon peter...
Alchemike: simon worked at cern...and fermilab...
Alchemike: cern is definitely ties to the esa...
BARDSQUILL: bad places
Alchemike: agree
Alchemike: oops...take that back...cannot confirm he worked for fermi...but did related cooperative work thru cern...
Alchemike: and get this...
Alchemike: http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/nobel/1984/1984l.html
Alchemike: second paragraph from bottom...
Alchemike: It is another step toward proof of the unification theory, a concept that preoccupied early 20th century scientists such as Einstein and Enrico Fermi. It helps explain the process by which matter decays, giving off beta rays, which is essential to archaeological dating. It is also an illustration of how the sun's nuclear generators work to keep from overheating and destroying life on earth.
BARDSQUILL: Bearden declares that scalar weapons can screw up the solar dynamics from earth
Alchemike: yea...
Alchemike: do you think that article was for real...just slipped in the world weekly news to throw people???
Alchemike: and the dr is simon not piers???
Alchemike: above quote from boston globe too freaky...
BARDSQUILL: maybe piers translates simon
BARDSQUILL: that's why I couldn't locate piers
Alchemike: reconcile statement above with this one from wwn story...
Alchemike: The core temperature of the Sun is normally 27 million degrees Fahrenheit. But in recent years it's climbed to an alarming 49 million degrees, says Dr. Van der Meer, leader of a team of Amsterdam-based space scientists who've been tracking the changes in the Sun.
Alchemike: first quote from 1984...It is also an illustration of how the sun's nuclear generators work to keep from overheating and destroying life on earth.
Alchemike: 2nd one from 2002
Alchemike: do you have any archived solar data from july 1, 2002???
BARDSQUILL: let me look
BARDSQUILL: YES
BARDSQUILL: we got hit by a superwave
gravwaves2.html

Alchemike: gulp
BARDSQUILL: firesun.gif
BARDSQUILL: There is more than meets the eye concerning the huge solar prominence observed on the SOHO EIT. Simultaneously on July 1st, 2002, the ELFRAD detection system recorded an anomaly whose amplitude reached a peak at 1319 UTC time.


BARDSQUILL: jeez, my email is kicking back on me
Alchemike: figures...we just find out the sun's gonna explode and you can't send email...
Alchemike: sheesh
Alchemike: trying to learn about kepler's star...went nova 1604
BARDSQUILL: keep goin gonna post all this
Alchemike: bardo, could this somehow be related to the jupiter stories???
Alchemike: man...this story don't make sense...
Alchemike: "It's quite similar to when a star goes supernova at the end of its life," Dr. Van der Meer explains. "Over the past 11 years, we've seen our Sun go through changes frighteningly like those that took place in Kepler's Star right before it was observed going supernova in 1604."
Alchemike: how could they know anything about the particulars of kepler's star in 1604?
Alchemike: whole story maybe part truth part bs...
Alchemike: i dunno...
BARDSQUILL: heyyy, maybe that's why i got punted off the show yesterday, remember something else i said
Alchemike: aha...go on
Alchemike: whoa...just noticed something else kent...
Alchemike: yea
BARDSQUILL: The Kybalion
Alchemike: ok...dig this...
Alchemike: 10/17/84 simon van der meer gets nobel prize for physics...
Alchemike: http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1984/press.html
Alchemike: 12/7/84...2010 release in theatres...
Alchemike: http://hallaudiobook.com/index.php/Mode/product/AsinSearch/B00004VVN8/name/2010%253A%2520Th e%2520Year%2520We%2520Make%2520Contact/browse/2324/page/1
Alchemike: 18 years later, we get the weekly world news story...looks like disinfo, cept for the van der meer clue...was maybe a tipoff to look at simon...his research directly related to this key section of wwn story...The core temperature of the Sun is normally 27 million degrees Fahrenheit. But in recent years it's climbed to an alarming 49 million degrees, says Dr. Van der Meer, leader of a team of Amsterdam-based space scientists who've been tracking the changes in the Sun.
Alchemike: his noble was awarded for research which, 18 years ago, illustrated how the sun's nuclear generators work to keep from overheating and destroying life on earth.
Alchemike: http://www.tmgnow.com/IMAGES/mayacsms.jpg
Alchemike: nuther representation of the cube of space...
BARDSQUILL: damn save the im i lost it
Alchemike: i saved...
Alchemike: will email...your puter actin up?
BARDSQUILL: no, just goofed up
Alchemike: email workin now?
BARDSQUILL: guess so sent to myself it worked
Alchemike: btw...http://www.insightmag.com/news/321357.html
Alchemike: http://www.insightmag.com/news/321357.html
BARDSQUILL: yup, gots that'n
Alchemike: k

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Alchemike:  bardo???  you around???
BARDSQUILL:  heeeere
Alchemike:  did you ever get that email i sent you with our im from yesterday???
Alchemike:  been thinkin and feeling that we hit on some important stuff...
Alchemike:  van der meer in particular...and the 701 superwave
Alchemike:  7/02
BARDSQUILL:  yes, loaded it
Alchemike:  i'm reeling...
Alchemike:  thinking the torps been an attempt to keep the sun under control...
Alchemike:  certain earthly events may have affected sol...nukes, scalars, haarps, etc...over the years...
Alchemike:  in ways we cannot fathom...
Alchemike:  speakin o that...great...idiots
Alchemike:  http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/4530780.htm

Alchemike simon van der meer supposedly retired in 1990...
BARDSQUILL:  with you, loading info
Alchemike:  k
BARDSQUILL:  The US Air  Force developed a top-secret plan to detonate a nuclear bomb on the moon as a  display of military might at the height of the Cold War. 'It was clear  the main aim of the proposed detonation was a PR exercise and a show of  one-upmanship. The Air Force wanted a mushroom cloud so large it would be  visible on earth,' he said yesterday. 'The US was lagging behind in the space  race.
Alchemike:  sounds like io...
Alchemike:  sun/jupiter...2001/2010...like it's acting out...
BARDSQUILL:  hell, they nuked earth a thousand times
Alchemike:  i know
Alchemike:  but what was the 'action at a distance' effect of all of those nukes...???
Alchemike:  those mf's send ripples thru space/time...
Alchemike:  who knows what they do/did...
BARDSQUILL:  Cathie says they had to be on grid points
Alchemike:  yea...
BARDSQUILL:  so what do earth chakras do, they connect to the out there
Alchemike:  makes a point that a nuke has never been detonated by missile...
Alchemike:  all have been basically static detonations...
Alchemike:  earth chakras...i dunno...think i can handle the concept...but how thye function, etc...no idea...
Alchemike:  earth alive...think that's a given now...
Alchemike:  same with other heavenly bodies i imagine...
Alchemike:  maybe conscious is a better word
Alchemike:  so van der meer gets the nobel in 1984...discovered the w and z boson particles...
Alchemike:  http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/history/AM-history02-b.html

Alchemike:  playin with antimatter and shit at cern..dangerous, dangerous stuff...
Alchemike:  also, the fact that these guys were experimenting with these machines and looking for quantum type particles leads me to believe that it is related to the burisch material and the ganesh particle...
Alchemike:  so simon van der meer is in all this stuff...all very directly related to the way we understand things like stars...like our star...
Alchemike:  then after he gets the nobel in 84 he basically drops off the map...
Alchemike:  only thing i can find is a reference in his autobiography that says he retired in 1990...
Alchemike:  i'm guessin they took him black...either with his permission or otherwise, like burisch...
Alchemike:  then july 1, 2002 we get the superwave...
BARDSQUILL:  hmmm, recently cern or desy sayin that the boson particle, the god particle may not exost at all
Alchemike:  and sept we get the weekly world news story bout the sun going kapow in 6 years...story references 7/1 solar events...
Alchemike:  but is quickly debunked...
Alchemike:  but is actually relevant, i think, cause of the simon van der meer info...no coincidence...
Alchemike:  now we got jupe and io, etc...
Alchemike:  co coincidence
Alchemike:  no
Alchemike:  the telling article re: van der meer was the one from the boston globe...10/18/84...
Alchemike:  http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/nobel/1984/1984l.html Alchemike:  It is another step toward proof of the unification theory, a concept that preoccupied early 20th century scientists such as Einstein and Enrico Fermi. It helps explain the process by which matter decays, giving off beta rays, which is essential to archaeological dating. It is also an illustration of how the sun's nuclear generators work to keep from overheating and destroying life on earth.
BARDSQUILL:  keep goin
Alchemike:  now from the weekly world news story...
Alchemike:  When that happens Earth will be instantly incinerated along with all life on it.
Alchemike:  on it...
Alchemike:  not in it or under it...on it...
Alchemike:  hopi...lakota...indigenous all know...they talk about goin underground...
Alchemike:  now final note...
Alchemike:  weekly world news owned by american media, inc...
Alchemike:  ami...
Alchemike:  ami was the number one target in the anthrax mailings last fall...
Alchemike:  http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/6/4/231130.shtml

Alchemike:  so...an educated guess says that ami being used by someone(s) to leak valid info...
Alchemike:  sorry for the rant, but i needed to get that down...
BARDSQUILL:  yes, got stuff happening everywhere here.
Alchemike:  we need to do some research on the solar surface temps...
Alchemike:  make that core temps
Alchemike:  k...
Alchemike:  whomever was being quoted in the wwn story at least had his facts straight...
Alchemike:  from the article again... http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20020918/103236120009.html

Alchemike:  The core temperature of the Sun is normally 27 million degrees Fahrenheit. But in recent years it's climbed to an alarming 49 million degrees, says Dr. Van der Meer...
Alchemike:  http://fusedweb.pppl.gov/CPEP/Chart_Pages/5.Plasmas/SunLayers.html

Alchemike:  The innermost layer of the sun is the core. With a density of 160 g/cm^3, 10 times that of lead, the core might be expected to be solid. However, the core's temperature of 15 million kelvins (27 million degrees Fahrenheit) keeps it in a gaseous state.
Alchemike:  bardo...we need to find out current or recent core temp of sol...
Alchemike:  i think our star's got a fever...
Alchemike:  will catch up with you in a while...
Alchemike:  take care bro...and sorry for the one sided convo...
Alchemike:  but i repeat...
Alchemike:  we need to find out current or recent core temp of sol...


Solar wind radial and latitudinal structure: Electron density and core temperature from Ulysses thermal noise spectroscopy