NAMES OF SENDERS OMITTED ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-03 07:01:47 EDT It's good to remember that the sun forms the bottom of a gravitational well for our little corner of the cosmos. It's a cosmic vacuum cleaner, sucking up every little bit of garbage in the neighborhood. ---------- Subj: An Attack on Sol Date: 98-06-03 10:30:33 EDT While at this time my srouces have not offered any information on this particular subject, I still feel that what I have to say can jump start some thinking. As we should all be aware that their are factions at work here upon our planet and from elsewhere that do not have the best interests of our race in mind. There has been much information that has surfaced from time to time that points to particular events that may or may not have large impact upon us. An example would be a hugh bomb payload that was sent to Jupiter under other pretenses to try and explode that planet or create a system event large enough to carry out a particular job, ie: the extingtion of our race upon this planet. For what it is worth I do know that factions here and above have the capability to carry out missions to other planets and stars within our solar system. If they were to set upon a mission to create a solar event utilizing the sun with the idea that they would be saved from some type of terrilbe event, it is possible that they could try something that was suggested to them by others. By them carrying out the suggestion would place full blame of their action on the ones who carried out the event, not the ones who suggested. This could be looked at as a karmic law issue. Since we all have free will, and the one or ones who decide to carry out a suggestion are really the ones at fault, not the ones making the suggestions. For their defense is, we were mearly talking and our intent was not for them to do this, for which they did all on their own. Now with that out of the way... A paid government disinformation artist put out information of a solar event evolving the sun and out planet where the entire population could be fried by hugh solar flares. That the event could take place twice, once a small one (test) and then latter a major one. This government source also stated that the underground would be safe. To date this event has not taken place and my sources say that this event is not in our current future. It was also shared that many of the solar rays coming from the sun would pass right through the planet and so if they could kill life on the surface, so would life below the surface not survive as well. Of course the stage was set, now the event must be carried out by someone. So factions here lets say give it a try. They are doing so because they have been told that such efforts could produce a particular event. And if the event was successful then a particular agenda would be taken care of and they would be rewarded. Another point to make is that there are others not of this world, that would love nothing better than to take out all life upon this planet. And they to could be trying to manipulate the sun to commit an event that would have horrible consequences for us. For all of us, all we can do is know that the threat may or may not be real. The future is not set ever and so events can take place even if we are told no. But to do so requires someone or some being to take on a responsibility of an action that will have certain consequences attached to it. There are also forces that would act to prevent these unwarrented things from taking place and so what you could also be seeing are corrective actions. Solar flares are happening all the time. Some large and most small. To date, while they can mess up our radio transmissions and give a burn at the beach they have not been of any size to harm our entire planet. If that were the case, then whomever would want us wiped out just needs to wait. But the event has not to our knowledge happened yet in our planets history, so the likely hood of it happening now is slim. Science may say that they know much, but since they have not been off planet except by using instruments that they send toward the sun or in orbit, they are at best speculating at these events. While I respect science for all that it does for us, they also have much more to learn and should often reframe from comments on things they really do not know by ultimate authority. Rather than stating fact they should stick to speculation, for they really do not know all things. Keep bring the pictures out, for within them will be the answer to the secrets that you are seeking. And when trying to make responsible decisions, use common sense as your guide. With respect and graditude, PS - If my sources comes up with any information, I will be sure to pass it along. ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-03 11:10:03 EDT What I saw is not what you say below. I saw images which may or may not be the sun with two blobs of light which may or may not be moving toward or away from the sun or may be gas jets thrown off the sun by solar storms. I saw no certifications sworn under penalty of purjury that the information cited is true and correct. I saw no documentation for the allegations whatsoever. ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-03 12:14:18 EDT Even if you never look at the LASCO movies - I urge everyone to check out the last days of May and first days of June. Thanks to Kent for the tip. Huge flares - bigger than I've ever seen , and comets flying. Amazing footage. Check it out before the images are lost or removed. Refer to Kent's firstmessage and get to the Lasco site through his page. Explanations ? I just wonder why there has been no mention of this on the news? There certainly appears to be some major astronomical activity going on here. ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-03 12:32:17 EDT .com (Abductee Support Group) The 6/1 Lasco C2 MPG files show 2 UNMISTAKEABLE comets flying into the suns corona - then there is a HUGE burst in the 6/2 image. HUGE ! If anyone wants the specific MPEGs, rather than digging for them - I can send them to you. Let me know. You HAVE to see this. Incredible images. ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-03 16:40:27 EDT Dear Space Friends: Today June 3rd, I received the following inquiry and request for response: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? CyberSpace ORBIT Editor, Kent Steadman http://www.eagle-net.org/phikent/orbit1a.html June 2, 1998, LASCO C3 You must see this: Projectiles on parallel course strike the sun followed by an immense burst in the corona. Please tell us your explanations and opinions on this mysterious event. -----------------------------------------------------------------------***** **------------ My response follows: Dear Kent: Thank you for the update on the Sun Bullets! I am of the opinion that what we are observing is the ingestion of several huge comets, asteroids, or pieces of a fragmented cosmic Iceberg of monumental dimensions which may have broken up in a way similar to the Shoemaker-Levi String of Pearls Cometary Train which struck Jupiter in 1994. I had the unique experience of being one of the only humans ever to see the Jovian moon, Europa, with the naked eye when I planned my observation of the event on the so-called "worst case scenario". This was proposed in December of 1993 as a likelihood since the strike would be on the far side. It had been predicted that we might only get to see flashes reflected off the surfaces of moons of Jupiter. Thus, I was able to oberve Europa flash on and off like a lighthouse in the night. I cannot believe that the objects depicted in the animations or photos could have any terrestrial link such as some black project or other, if that is what is suspected. The size of the two objects depicted in the Lasco photos are of such size that they would have to dwarf the earth by comparison and I don't believe that any nation on earth could have such capabilities technologically speaking or otherwise. I think that the Earth may have been lucky that our Sol just gobbled up two potential "titanic" hazards to us in our course around the solar system. However, the consequences of the solar prominence which followed the impact explosion could be dire as well considering the amount of radiation just released and the resulting magnetic instability just discovered. I've been watching the magnetic aberrations since early March and I posted some pertinent information for a while as "Today's Space Weather" and a lot of boobs didn't get it and thought I was just playing around. This magnetic aberration has been building for months and the snowballs might have been drawn in and could possibly help to repolarize the sun when the vorticular disturbances caused by impact begin to even themselves out. The angular momentum from the impact and explosion of the solar prominences could give it a kick to "spin up" in which case the axis would begin to more clearly define itself. If, on the othe hand the angular momentum is such as to make it "spin down" then...the new is not so good. Interestingly, the "Sun Bullets" seem to have impacted near the 19.5 degree latitude which Hoagland believes to be points of magnetic resonance where the "embedded energy tetrahedron within the planetary sphere" erupts periodically with "vorticular, roiling energy patterns" typified by extremely powerful electromagnetic disturbances (Bermuda Triangle) or volcanic activity (Canary Islands, Hawaii, and Olympus Mons on Mars, Great Red Spot on Jupiter). I fear that there may be very severe weather in the next few weeks due to unpredictable oscillations in the solar wind which will have powerful effects on the Aurora Borealis (i.e., HAARP Expericment) as well as whipping the jet streams into wild galloping patterns. Otherwise, the news is pretty good...those two objects (whatever they were) would have left but a tight little asteroid belt of cosmic dust girdling the 3rd ring around the Sun if they had encountered Terra fist and not Sol. ---------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] [Fwd: [lunascan] SOHO Spacecraft Sees Two Comets Plungeinto Sun] Date: 98-06-04 10:56:03 EDT >Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't they ahve burned up before they >even got close to the sun? How is that possible that they plunged into >the sun? Another fable by Nasa? NASA=Never A Straight Answer :) Any questions? ---------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] [Fwd: [lunascan] SOHO Spacecraft Sees Two Comets Plunge into Sun] Date: 98-06-04 01:20:09 EDT I was hoping you could refute their claim that they were comets. How do they know they were comets. In the gif on your page they don't look much like comets to me. ---------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] [Fwd: [lunascan] SOHO Spacecraft Sees Two Comets Plunge into Sun] Date: 98-06-04 01:30:17 EDT Very good points, maybe if they were meteor's instead of comets, these objects had to be huge to show up then cause the exolosion it appears they did when they hit. I also think there is something wrong with their story. ---------- Subj: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-05 01:04:33 EDT It was probably those sharp people at CNN. They finally mentioned the comets and the impact today on their web site. I'm so glad they are reporting all the news we need to hear, and only a few days after it happens. ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: ATTACK ON SOL? Date: 98-06-05 09:12:51 EDT OK.. a friend and I have been working on the Solar attack..and have come to an understanding of a couple possible scenarios...those large flares were ET ships (quite large since sun dia is 864,000 miles) my friend blew them up in photoshop and yes they were ships..(two different kinds)..they were using the sun as a hyperspace jump..possibly one ship escaping the other one..something went wrong and either they did not make the jump..and KA BOOM...or one ship eventually shooting at the other before the hyperjump to another sun system was accomplished...perhaps they both did not make it....and the Quake was simply the indication of the event...will attach her jpegs to another email....how are you by the way..love your web ---------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] [Fwd: [lunascan] SOHO Spacecraft Sees3 Two Comets Plunge into Sun Date: 98-06-04 20:14:28 EDT In 1951, My old "mentor" Linus Pauling (et Co.) started using the "New" cyclotron at Berkeley...and managed to "finish" the Periodic table to the "cross-point" of the vibratory vs mass equation: "end product" where Cosmic energy began. The "Element" was called "Cosmium" and emmited "cosmic rays" as a "half-life Product. Cosmic rays are, in reality: Helium nucleus' and are produced in outer space as a product of "Gravitational stresses". Our "Now" Helium Sun is throwing them at us ad-nauseum and we are only protected by what's left of our Ozone layers To make a long story shorter, we, who were crazy enough to mess with Mother Nature once more, made a theoretical protype "Cosmic Bomb" which, if actually produced would be a "Planet Buster". We also made some "Toys" with "kernals" of this very dangerous element and produced a "self powered" PNP Transistor about the size of a small pea including lead shielding and 2 other elements and the first prototype of a "proton" tunnel device with Isolium, another new element with the capability of "Storing Electrons"...we put this, with appropriate miniature coils, capacitors, and connectors into a "lipstick tube" and connected it a "Wattmeter"! The Output (RF) power was in the neighborhood of one Kilowat. We also produced Batteries with Manganese positive poles with Lead as the neg poles and produced 300 watts of power at about 150 VDC. The "half-life was estimated at about 300 years.Strange bcoincidences!! We also noted that if the Manganese pole was disengaged and the "Particle tunnel left open, that any thing within 50 feet of the narrow beam of cosmic "radiation" produced was completely disintegrated. Linus, with this device in mind, tried to form the Intl' "Pacem en Terra" movement and was accused of "being a "Communist" by good ol' Sen. McCarthy. (Ignorant dumb S>O>B> that he was.) Had he known the super top secret reason behind it, He "might" not have been so arrogant (I wonder, though, he definitely had a "one track mind") When Kennedy was facing the Cuban missile crisis 10 years later, He alluded to the fact that He was not afraid of any thing the Ruskies had was peanuts to our ability to strike and destroy Russia...I believe he was thinking of the Foregoing!! and would certainly have been right as He did threaten to Bomb Russia but that's when Kruschev let loose all the "dirty Bombs they had in Siberia and let the "Fallout go all over the The upper west coast and upper central states including Beloit, Kansas where many born at that time died recently of Brain Cancer (about 36 to 37 ) brought on by that "fallout" including many in my immediate family of about 30 in number. Needless to say, I' not too pleased with the Mr. Kischev's "Temper Tantrums" If you'll notice, the new elements "Californium" and Berkelium" don't have the names we gave them..anyway, this is what I was alluding to in a Previous post as the type of device being fired at the Sun to break down the Helium into H2,3,4,5,6,7 and temporarily "rejuvenate" our sun into normal balanced H2 and He star with normal Thermonuclear operational characteristics. If this is true, then I sincerely hope it is successful as it is a "dangerous experiment at best. ---------- Subj: Re: Comet Date: 98-06-05 18:08:31 EDT >I grabbed the images off the LASCO c2 and c3 coronagraphs and published 12 >hours before the NASA release. Luckily I kept the data on my hard drive as >did others. > >As to the peculiarity of these comets, arriving in tandem and possibly plowing >into the mantle, I don't understand the implications. It just seems awfully coincidental that two "random comets" would be so close together and following the same traj, when the press release itself says comets approaching the sun are so rare they've only seen about 50 total. How large do they appear to be? Could they have been manmade or... "someone"-made? It'd be interesting to compare the appearance with other relatively uneventful comets in the same position and see if there are any observable differences (i.e. the tail on the first one seemd to act funny - turning a completely different angle at the last minute, how do normal calculated gravitational vectors compare? -were they accelerating properly as they approached the sun, could they have conceivably changed direction suddenly as if powered?) You want conjecture?:) If _I_ were going to send something into the sun which I suspected would result in a flare-up back toward the source I would definitely send it in from the side and then into the sun so the flare (or the apparent opposing flare out the opposite side if say it were sent to the far side) would not come back at me. Actually We REALLY cannot tell if there were any flare TOWARD us as it would be blocked by the disk. Convenient :). It still seems to me there is a corresponding flare up to the opposite side immediately after the initial flare-up to the right. Think of what happens to the wind currents when you blow at a beer bottle from the side. If, just say for a moment, these were nukes exploded just above the surface of the mantel, they would generate a pretty strong "wind". In a traditional nuke explosion the initial force release is straight up into the air followed by force across the surface. >LASCO claims each frame in their animations to be hourly updates or one hour >apart. I counted three frames between the time the comets disappeared behind >the solar block-mask and the eruption. > >The feedback I am getting in email as to what all these elements are and the >astrophysics involved are extremely diverse. See above. > >Because of NASA's handling of the data concerning recent Cydonia MSG images, >even the handling of the SOHO comet announcement, I am most leery of NASA >press releases. BIG DITTO > >Keep checking back at the website; the investigation is ongoing. Will do. > >Above all: what is happening to our sun? > >"NASA's recent report, a/o Nov 21 thru 24, '97 from plutonium powered Ulysses >satellite noted that the phenomenon, first reported by TRW observatory circa >Jan 12, 1962 (start of present condition) had since 1991, when the outer >mantle finished blowing off and the diameter was 200 miles less in diameter, >begun to swell and was getting mucho caliente, And all this time they've been telling us it was the GREENHOUSE EFFECT :-). This may not really effect us depending on what they mean by hotter. We only receive RADIANT heat accross space which is a different energy spectrum than localized heat. > the sun is NOW a HELIUM STAR >(NO MORE H2) and that there are NO poles--just total instability." -- Discreet >Source Hmm, correlated with the rumors that earth is scheduled to shift magnetic axes, maybe this is just a common occurance every few thousand, 10's,000 years. What happens when you put two magnets of opposing poles near each other :). Maybe the sun goes through these cycles and powers down while the elements re settle into their alternate states/forms. Then it comes alive again. Could sure explain what happened to the dinosaurs if the sun had gone out for a few thousand years back then. Would also be a good reason for a civilization to move underground to keep warm off the planet's own internal heat. MAYBE, the Mayans or Aztecs caculated the next occurance (they were sun worshippers) and decided to end their calendar (weren't they using SunDials back then to measure time and dates) on 2012 (isn't that the year?). I love conjecture don't you? Sometimes even conjecturests wind up getting a lucky guess in. :) ---------- Subj: Re: ORBIT: what the blazes is happening to our sun? Date: 98-06-07 13:22:11 EDT According to the Keys of Enoch:The Book of Knowledge, by Dr.J.J.Hurtak of the Academy For Future Science, there is a Higher Evolution which is adjusting the atomic/astrochemical foundations of our Solar system in order to prepare Mankind for a great 'quantum' leap forward into a higher dimension of existence. These changes will allow for mankind to develop a new positron-electron pair as the old balances in our biochemical bodies are realigned. This will also(according to the exquisite book) coincide with great upheavals from the core of the sun, and from the core of the earth. You can contact them at www.affs.org My fiance also wrote of the upheavals to come from the Sun, @ ncf.sigs.ufo last year, in which some 'engineers' scoffed and laughed at his "predictions". Hope this helps.. ----------- Subj: Double Hit Date: 98-06-07 18:11:51 EDT Kento-- After viewing the video segment showing these two objects on parallel trajectories, travelling at the same speed, slamming into the sun at the same time and triggering a massive eruption of energy from the sun’s surface, it seems evident to me that these could not possibly have been comets, but instead some non-natural, artificial objects, intelligently controlled. Of course I'm no astronomer and am not aware of the (statistical) frequency with which such a double hit could occur naturally. With my limited knowledge I feel that it was not a natural event, and that apparently, some “people” or other beings want to hasten along these very significant changes already occurring on the sun and, as noted, on the planets as well. Despite the well documented existence of a psychotic, megalomaniac, demoonic, fascistic and oppressive secret government, whose main objective would appear to be the physical, mental and spiritual enslavement of their fellow human beings, even they, I think, have to live on his planet and in this solar system. I can't imagine how even those lunatics would conduct such an operation for any purpose, when there is even the merest possibility of initiating some kind of catastrophic event on the sun. I would have to conclude that if this was a deliberate, intelligently controlled act, it was by some nonhuman agency with severe malice towards human beings. ---------- Subj: Pictures of sun Date: 98-06-07 18:20:57 EDT Dear Kent: I was looking at your sun pictures of june/projectile and found a couple of things. First of all, I agree that the explanation of the impacts being caused from two comets is not the complete truth. Have you checked out in either magnification or enhancements the lower left quadrant of the picture? This is on your main page, orbit1a. Do you see something there that looks like a metalic craft or object? Do you know what that is? Next - when there are beings directly involved in anything there is an imprint left there by their involvement. I see these beings all over these pictures! One male has his index and third fingers of his right hand held under his nose (pointing towards his left side) as he's viewing this event. Others are there facing all directions - from our viewpoint they would be sideways or upside down. The beings are most concerned about what they are seeing. They have human-like eyes, only much larger. I don't get any more information at the moment about them, but if I do, I will share it with you. This is proof to me that this even is not merely an astronomical event left to chance. At the bottom of this page you ask what is coming into view - and I see it as a craft of some sort. ---------- Subj: FATHER SUN IS SHAKING! Date: 98-06-08 02:41:56 EDT Native Prophecy says in the time of transition Father Sun will Quake. Mother Earth has already gone thru there shaking and will continue to do so. And now scientists are worried the sun is changing in unexpectred ways. Already the magnetics have dropped. NASA found out the sun has no north or south pole. As you know whatever happens on the sun, happens on the earth when the waves reach here. And they travel from 25,000 mph to 250,000 mph. We are 93,000,000 miles from the Sun. Figure it out. Donald Savage May 27, 1998Headquarters, Washington, DC(Phone: 202/358-1547)Bill SteigerwaldGoddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD(Phone: 301-286-5017)RELEASE: 98-88SOLAR FLARE LEAVES SUN QUAKING Scientists have shown for the first time that solar flares produceseismic waves in the Sun's interior that resemble those created byearthquakes: They observed a flare-generated solar quake that containedabout 40,000 times the energy released in the great 1906 earthquake thatdevastated San Francisco. (The amount of energy released was enough topower the United States for 20 years at its current level of consumption,and was equivalent to an 11.3 magnitude earthquake.)Dr. Alexander G. Kosovichev, a senior research scientist from Stanford University, and Dr. Valentina V. Zharkova from Glasgow (United Kingdom) University found the tell-tale seismic signature in data on the Sun's surface. The data were collected by the Michelson Doppler Imager onboard the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft immediately following a moderate-sized flare on July 9, 1996. "Although the flare was a moderate one, it still released an immense amount of energy," said Dr. Craig Deforest, a researcher with the SOHO project. "The energy released is equal to completely covering the Earth's continents with a yard of dynamite and detonating it all at once."SOHO is a joint project of the European Space Agency and NASA. The finding is reported in the May 28 issue of the journal Nature, and will be thesubject of a press conference at the spring meeting of the American GeophysicalUnion in Boston, MA, May 27 at 9 a.m. EDT. The solar quake that the science team recorded looks much like ripples spreading from a rock dropped into a pool of water. But over the course of an hour, the solar waves traveled for a distance equal to 10 Earth diameters before fading into the fiery background of the Sun's photosphere. Unlike water ripples that travel outward at a constant velocity, the solar waves accelerated from an initial speed of 22,000 miles per hour to a maximum of 250,000 miles per hour before disappearing. "People have looked for evidence of seismic waves from flares before, but they didn't have a theory so they didn't know where to look," says Kosovichev. Several years ago Kosovichev and Zharkova developed a theory that can explain how a flare, which explodes in space above the Sun's surface, can generate a major seismic wave in the Sun's interior. According to thecurrently accepted model of solar flares, the primary explosion createshigh-energy electrons (electrically charged subatomic particles). These arefunneled down into a magnetic flux tube, an invisible tube of magnetic energy,and produce X-rays, microwaves and a shock wave that heats the solar surface.Kosovichev and Zharkova developed a theory that predicts the nature andmagnitude of the shock waves that this beam of energetic electrons shouldcreate when they slam down into the solar atmosphere. Although their theory directed them to the right area to search for the seismic waves, the waves that they found were 10 times stronger than they had predicted. "They were so strong that you can see them in the raw data," Kosovichev says. The solar seismic waves appear to be compression waves like the "P" waves generated by an earthquake. They travel throughout the Sun's interior. Infact, the waves should recombine on the opposite side of the Sun from thelocation of the flare to create a faint duplicate of the original ripplepattern, Kosovichev predicts. Now that they know how to find them, the SOHO scientists say that the seismic waves generated by solar flares should allow them to verify independently some of the conditions in the solar interior that they have inferred fromstudying the pattern of waves that are continually ruffling the Sun's surface. SOHO is part of the International Solar-Terrestrial Physics (ISTP) program, a global effort to observe and understand our star and its effects on our environment. The ISTP mission includes more than 20 satellites, coupled with ground-based observatories and modeling centers, that allow scientists to study the Sun, the Earth, and the space between them in unprecedented detail. ISTP is a joint program of NASA, ESA, Japan's Institute for Astronautical Science, and Russia's Space Research Institute.Still images of the solar quake can be found at the following internet address:FTP://PAO.GSFC.NASA.GOV/newsmedia/QUAKE/ ----------