>From Art Bell's Dreamland radio program, 14 September 1997: LH = Linda Howe AB = Art Bell JS = Jack Schulman (sp?) LH: Well, last Sunday on Dreamland and Monday night's Coast to Coast, I reported about the American Computer Company's website containing information from a consultant, who works for both the military and ACC concerning satellite communications systems. The consultant alleges that the Department of the Army retrieved debris and advanced technology in July, 1947 from two delta- shaped extraterrestrial craft at a crash site in the vicinity of Roswell, New Mexico. Some of that extraterrestrial technology was then hand delivered in September, 1947 to Bell Labs in Murray Hill, New Jersey according to this consultant. There he said, scientists back- engineered and filed for a patent on what became the transistor made of nearly pure silicon with traces of arsenic and other elements. More technology, such as integrated circuits, digital processors and modems followed from further analyis of the extraterrestrial technology, according to the consultant. Since my reports last week, many people have contacted me, some engineers, to argue both for and against the consultant's claims. In an upcoming Dreamland I hope to provide more information about the differences between the germanium diode that existed prior to September 1947 and the silicon transistor that emerged at Bell Labs in 1948, a few months later. But tonight my focus is on my trip to Cranford, New Jersey yesterday, September 13th to meet Jack Schulman (sp?), chairman of the American Computer Company, and to see his offices. American Computer Company is located on the second floor of a suite of offices in a business park. To get to ACC's floor you have to pass a security guard, and at night there are laser monitors at the outside doors. If they are interrupted signals go directly to security and to the local police department - all of which were demonstrated for me while I was there. However, Schulman showed me the pulverized glass left in the tracks of what had been the original ten foot high glass door to ACC's office before the middle of August. It was smashed by something to pieces no bigger than B-Bs, a week after he posted the consultant's information on ACC's webpage at the consultant's request, and, only two days after ACC's fax machine received what appeared to be a classified military communication that the consultant said was connected to the strange lights seen by hundreds of people over Arizona on March 13th, 1997, and reported here on Dreamland, Coast to Coast, and in the national media. ACC's security and local police did not know how intruders got past the laser alarm system, nor why pulverized pieces of this huge ten foot glass door were scattered for fifty feet down the hall toward the elevators. Before the breakin, Schulman had reported the unusual military fax and its content to the Central Inteligence Agency out of concern that he had a classified document that might be urgently needed by someone in the government. The CIA duty officer he reached listened to Schulman read the fax, and said, quote, "Oh, that's an asset of the United States Air Force", and suggested Schulman contact the Pentagon. He did, and then two days later the ACC office was broken into, before anyone from the government had come for the fax. Now here is Jack Schulman from ACC... JS: We started to get these pecular faxes, and they were about the very asset that the consultant had told me had been shut down by this alien fly-by on March 13th. LH: ...That ended up... JS: That ended up over Arizona, apparently, and being reportedly seen by thousands and tens of thousands of people in Arizona. LH: Can you elaborate about what the consultant saw and knew in terms of actual fact concerning a flyover by a non-human inteligence? JS: I beleive that this was not just over Arizona, but was detected in outer space. He stated that there was something that flew over, that it had lights, and was quite obviously some form of craft. And that there was in fact a piece of equipment that the Air Force uses for surveillance that sits over the United States, and that this vehicle flew over and deactivated it. It didn't destroy it, but it shut it down. Interestingly, those odd faxes that we received here, to the tech support fax machine that you saw as you walked in - we use that as a tech support fax - that caused us after we put the article on our website, to become alarmed that we were receiving classified military faxes at our fax machine from a computer that we had developed at American Computer that is in use, it turns out, by this particular surveillance system. And that somehow it was trying to contact us which seemed a little strange - why would this computer be trying to send messages to its original manufacturer? We discovered that the Air Force equipment had originated the materials in question that ended up at our fax machine, and we subsequently contacted the nearest possible source of that information and told them that we had received these classified faxes or fax. And that these things we felt was information that belonged to them and they asked us to secure the fax. LH: How many faxes did you receive? JS: Just one, and it was cryptic, and I received two copies of it. Cryptic in the sense that it was obviously a military communications message, and it was not addressed to us. But it had a heading that said "no origin, destination: American Computer Company". LH: No origin? JS: No origin... Now the message format was a telex message format, and I recognized the format as having been something that we would commonly use with the computer in question, and that's of course why I thought the computer in question was having a nervous breakdown, and had gone through its database, found our fax machine number and called it and faxed the message to us that it was crashing, or going down. I couldn't imagine how something in space could communicate to me at a fax machine. It was bizzare, strange, and so I assumed that somehow the message had gotten routed to us, because it was a damaged message, someone had seen American Computer on it, found our contractor's fax-back telephone number for support, and sent it to us. So I was basically trying to trace back to whoever had sent it to me. It was a very strange fax to receive. LH: Can you tell me what the content was? JS: It referred to something which I have since been advised by our counsel I should not not identify the name of the asset for reasons of liability. So I can't name the device but I can say it just said this device is going down and had a series of codes on it. It was in telex transmission format, and it had an origin, time and date, a subject indicating that the device was going down, and then all the error codes associated with the device's failure. Whoever sent this to us, or whatever sent this to us, wanted us to know that this device was down. But that it had gone down, and the message looked like it had been coded to represent that it had gone down the night before. Or that day. Which was intersting because to the consultant, later when I discussed this with him, he said no, that was in fact the object that was disabled by that fly over in the middle of March that ended up being seen by all those people in Arizona. So he provided the missing piece that traced it back to the disablement of this satellite, or whatever it is. LH: Has the consultant though, ever said to you directly that he has had himself conversations either with people in Bell Labs or the Defense Department that he consults for, who has specific knowledge about any actions or intent of these extraterrestrial inteligences that gives them concern? JS: I think the disablement of this particular asset upset them, and there may have even been forms of observation of our planet, and I think you know some people have been involved with examining cattle mutillations and so forth, that have raised grave concern in their mind that probably where in fact, I, and the consultant would differ with their military thinking because in fact I beleive the public has a right to know. Even if it represents a threat, because we need to have a hand in the decision. We don't elect our public officials and have our public officials create the rules, like the Constitution, the rules of military conduct and so forth for no reason. We don't put it into the hands of an inner sanctum, and we don't put it into the hands of senior military leaders per se, without them first having to consider the fact that they are our employees, not our masters. This matter is something which perhaps is of such epoch-making or Earth-shaking importance to humanity that I think that the general concensus of all parties is required. Unfortunately I don't think that that particular opinion is mirrored throughout all parts of our government. LH: What if this extraterrestrial inteligence in fact wants the Earth and Earth life to survive and that it's intent is to make sure that humans, who seem to be on a self-destructive path in their own environment, do not destroy the planet? What if this is a positive-oriented extraterrestrial inteligence? JS: Then I think I'd have to give them tremendous points for logistical understanding of humanity's pyschology because if in fact the military holds the viewpoint that I don't agree with, that the (garbled) doesn't agree with, that is that they are potentially a threat to our existance, that would be one very good way: park a few ships off our bow and fly them by every once in a while to scare us into proceeding with caution. That in fact would scare the military to such an extent that they would, since they would beleive that they had no way of defending against these aliens, that they would not provoke them. And that would be one of the first things that would lead to a lessening of agressiveness on the part of our own military. (end of interview of Mr. Schulman) LH: Now I know that your communication from the Area 51 person was alleging concern about something not benign. And so that's a big question mark out there, Art. After receiving the fax, and the mysterious break-in, Schulman had to call the Pentagon again, because no one had responded. And finally two Air Force Office of Special Investigations agents from McGuire Air Force Base visited Schulman at ACC and grilled him about the fax. Then they took the fax and it's copy and Schulman has not heard back from anyone in the government since August. Curiously, he told me that he has heard from current Bell Labs employees, anonymously and by untraceable e-mail. He said that several have asked questions or made statements referencing secret underground installations at various Bell Labs facilities, but that he (Schulman) does not know why. AB: Wow! LH: And if this March 13th date and that flyover had some connection to this mysterious fax, and is an inside to military concern about what was in the sky over Arizona, again that policy of silence that always seems to be there might be explained. End of transcript..