||Who Was McVeigh ???
||6/17/01 8:04:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Please check out the attached image
and see if you recognise the man in the image on the right - originally
identified as an ATF agent at the WACO Branch Davidian Trial - months before
the OKC bombing ???
The OKC Bombing Chronology You're NOT Supposed To
"Sgt. McVeigh was an outstanding soldier. He did what he was told,
anticipated what had to be done (and) took pride in his work,"
- Capt. Jesus Angel Rodriguez,
during the Gulf War,
testifying at his sentencing hearing
It's called a Reichstag Fire
The OKC Chronology you're not supposed to know
1. A second bomb found inside the building
SUSANNE SEALY, Correspondent: Yes, LEA [sp], I can. The
City police and the FBI have confirmed there is another bomb
the Federal Building. It's in the east side of the building.
They've moved everybody back several blocks.
CNN SHOW: NEWS 11:27 am ET - LIVE April 19, 1995
Transcript # 920-19
2. Forget the people, get those papers
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Hours after a bomb ripped apart the
building, some rescue workers were stopped from searching
survivors while federal officials removed boxes of documents.
"You'd think they would have let their evidence and files
at least until the last survivor was pulled out," one
rescue worker told The News.
The worker and a firefighter said that 10 to 12 hours after
9 a.m. blast April 19, federal officials began limiting the
number of rescue workers in the building to a dozen,
them largely to the lower right side of the battered structure.
Source: New York Daily News
3. FBI quietly drops pursuit of John Doe No. 2
Denver, Colo. -- An internal FBI memo indicates FBI agents
suspended their search for the elusive Oklahoma City bomb
suspect John Doe No. 2 in the critical weeks soon after the
April 1995 blast, belying assurances by federal officials
the time that the search was continuing.
The memo, the existence of which is publicly disclosed for
first time here, undercuts the government contention
federal agents have done everything they can to find the
In the memo, San Francisco-based FBI agent Thomas Ravenelle
writes that he's discontinuing efforts to investigate a lead
relating to attempts to find and identify John Doe No. 2
view of the fact that the Oklahoma City Command Post
directed all offices to hold (John Doe No. 2) leads in
Source: 1997 Digital City Denver
4. McVeigh's first confession faked by newspaper
"The document containing a purported confession by
Oklahoma City bomber Timothy J. McVeigh, published by
Dallas Morning News, was fabricated by an investigator for
the defense team, a friend of the investigator said yesterday."
The Washington Post 03/05/97 By Lois Romano and Tom
Washington Post Staff Writers
5. DOJ report calls FBI's OJC bomb blast conclusions:
"incomplete... inappropriate... scientifically insupportable"
"Williams' report contains several serious flaws. His opinion
to the VOD of the main charge was unjustifiable; his statement
of the VOD of ANFO was incomplete; his categorical
identification of the main charge as ANFO was inappropriate;
estimate of the weight of the main charge was too specific
based in part on improper grounds; his conclusion as to the
containers for the main charge was unjustifiably categorical;
his categorical identification of the initiator for the
was improper; his conclusions concerning a non-electric
detonator, the fuse, and the time delay were
insupportable; his conclusions were not supported by the
contents of the report; and he included some AE dictation in
selective or confusing way. These errors were all tilted in
a way as to incriminate the defendants. We are troubled that
opinions in Williams' report may have been tailored to conform
to the evidence associated with the defendants. We conclude
Williams failed to present an objective, unbiased,
Source: The FBI Laboratory: An Investigation into
Practices and Alleged Misconduct in Explosives-Related
Other Cases (April,1997) - A USDOJ/OIG Special Report
* A timely terrorist
He wanted to start a revolution, but even with years of prison
to sort out his thoughts he never found the time to write
the briefest of manifestos. Fellow inmates said he spent his
time reading car magazines.
He wanted to protest the murder of innocent women and children
so he murdered innocent women and children.
He was a crack marksman, good enough to reportedly haven
the head off an Iraqi soldier in a machine gun nest at 1,000
yards - but he chose a complex truck bomb, something he had
training or experience with, to deliver his violent message.
Tim McVeigh was a most convenient and cooperative terrorist.
The government wanted the world to believe that a single
bomb loaded with fertilizer destroyed the Murrah Building -
at the end of his life, McVeigh apparently told two
that the story was true. That he lit the fuse personally in
traffic while on the way to the building. You can read all
it in the mass market book that came out just before the
The country needed someone to be arrested quickly, sit in jail
for a few years, not implicate anyone else and then die at
hands of an executioner in order that the nation might "heal"
and he proved to be the right man for the job.
The government apparently wanted him gone fast, due process
damned - and he seemed to have no problem with that.
A Constitution-shredding anti-terrorist bill languished in
Congress, unpassable, and needed a massive demonstration of
extreme violence against the federal government and innocent
people - and Sgt. McVeigh delivered a Ryder truck to the
of the Murrah Building right on time.
A remarkable confluence of purposes for two forces supposedly
at odds with each other.
* Dead and gone?
Just in case you're curious, Timothy McVeigh's body won't be
autopsied, reportedly at his request, even though conducting
an autopsy of executed prisoners is standard procedure in US
prisons. Federal Judge Richard Matsch, who made the ruling,
must have a heart after all.
In addition to the no autopsy ruling, a signed agreement
between McVeigh and the government states that pictures,
X-rays and other medical information gathered by the
office after McVeigh's death will remain confidential.
The body will be cremated. By now, it may already have been -
again at McVeigh's request and with Judge Richard Matsch's
The execution itself?
Here's an excerpt of the first eye witness account of the
execution broadcast by MSNBC just minutes after it was over:
"The shallow breathing continued... or what appeared to be
shallow breathing... even after they pronounced him dead." -
Susan Carlson. Reporter. WLS Chicago
See her say it yourself in streaming video before it's taken
The execution was not videotaped, again by court order, so
we know of what happened at the end are from the eye witness
No body. No video. No photographs. Not even an X-ray - and a
sealed coroner's report.
Did "Timothy McVeigh" die on Monday?
It depends on which one you mean...
The one on the left, the McVeigh we know from the media? Or the
one on the right, a man identified as an ATF agent
during the Waco Branch Davidian trial (published months before
the OKC bombing.)
Call it a Reichstag Fire.
No one believed the audacity of it in 1933 either.
* History Lesson
"On Feb. 27, 1933, a fire destroyed part of the Reichstag
building. Hitler immediately accused the Communists of having
set the fire. President von Hindenburg proclaimed a state of
emergency and issued decrees suspending freedom of speech and
The following day a law was passed ...
"People were not sent to Dachau as a punishment for a crime
after being convicted by a court of law, but rather as a
preventive measure because they were suspected of being a
to the state. Such a person was called a Schutzhäftling and
order for preventive custody was a Schutzhaftbefehl. Prisoners
who were arrested and taken to Dachau were told:
"Based on Article One of the Decree of the Reich President
the Protection of People and State of 28 February 1933, you
taken into protective custody (Schutzhaft) in the interest of
public security and order. Reason: suspicion of activities
inimical to the State."
And remember, if you speak against the state, you're a dangerous
nut, just like that Timothy McVeigh...And he sure got what he