EDITOR'S NOTE: discussion continued from http://members.aol.com/ozwizrd8/wrdvibes.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Weird signals? Date: 97-08-22 04:29:56 EDT From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) To: Phikent@aol.com Did you get his rebuttal? Yes, it's incoherent. Do you know anything about Tesla's Radiant Energy? No. Please enlighten me. Is there a Grandaddy Whisper? That's a great question. If there is, it's probably buried in the background microwave radiation from the galaxies. It would be interesting to convert it into music and images and listen/look. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Weird signals? Date: 97-08-22 05:07:44 EDT From: Phikent To: west@sonic.net In a message dated 97-08-22 04:29:56 EDT, you write: Do you know anything about Tesla's Radiant Energy? No. Please enlighten me. >> Has something to do with Impulse Technology as I reckon, perhaps Aether (as a radiant field), not well expressed by Marconi radio waves: "After completing his work in Polyphase and High Frequency Alternating Currents, Tesla made a discovery which forever altered the course and nature of his experimental research. Whether purposefully or inadvertantly, this singular discovery has been completely overlooked by those who claim to know ghis work best. A single article and statements made in several of his lectures affirm the conviction that Tesla, while working with violently abrupt electrical discharges, discovered A NEW FORCE." SECRETS OF COLD WAR TECHNOLOGY by Gerry Vassilatos (can order at www.lauralee.com) More about Tesla at: http://members.aol.com/phikent/tesla.htm HAARP is apparently Tesla technology. I just received this interesting post: "I believe I started Haarp idea in the 1960's due to someone I consulted with. Will explain some day. I said basically that if you could generate a frequency it's like having a "pond." When u throw something in the pond - coming or going (like airplanes, spaceships) it makes a ripple in the pond & u can pick this up with "listening" instruments. Side effects of the frequency are unknown & have to be checked on humans, animals and plants. A friend's friend is making a documentary of Haarp and most of the people she interviewed have had "visitors," asking questions." -dc Kent ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Weird signals? Date: 97-08-22 04:02:02 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) Wes Thomas wrote: > Kent: (THIS IS HANS RESPONDING UNWILLINGLY, > BECAUSE THE ONLY ANSWERS I CAN GIVE ARE AS FORCED DEBATOR.) > > You asked for my opinion on the signal reports from godard j. p. > (Hans). > Let me amend my previous message to be more specific. YOU MEAN YOU > WERE VAGUE BEFORE? > > Hans has not provided any reason to justify a "high alert" HOW DO YOU > JUSTIFY REQUIRING JUSTIFICATION? > or for anyone to spend any time checking his report, for these > reasons: WHOSE TIME IS IT, THEIRS OR YOURS? > > - His report is too vague MANY THINGS APPEAR VAGUE. > to evaluate and the reported signal do(ES) not appear to be > exceptional in any way. APPEARANCES CAN BE DECEPTIVE, AND HOW MANY > WAYS ARE THERE TO BE VERIFIED AS EXCEPTIONAL? BING PICKED UP ON THIS > RIGHT AWAY, AND GUESSED HOW IT WAS DONE. > There are many signals in the 14 KHz to 52 KHz range in our > electronic world, typically, horizontal sync signals from computer > monitors and other electronic devices, as well as military > long-distance > transmitters, such as a military experiment at 14.2 KHz. SO WHAT? THEN > THERE IS ROOM FOR MORE, RIGHT? > See http://bul.eecs.umich.edu/uffc/fc_abstracts/abstract9-15-226.html > What makes this one any different? WHAT MAKES THE OTHERS ALL THE SAME > THEN? > You can tune across the VLF band and find hundreds of signals. Are we > to put out a "high alert" on every VLF signal in the world? YOU CAN IF > YOU WISH. > > - Sawtooth modulation on a 60 Hz signal is extremely common and you > can confirm that by simply turning on your AM radio, tuning between > stations, and turning on any motor in your home or a nearby home or > apartment. You'll hear a buzz, which is a result of signals from AC > power lines being picked up by audio circuits in your radio (contrary > to what Hans stated). I SAID NOTHING ABOUT AUDIO CIRCUITS. > If you use batteries instead of AC power for your radio and still hear > it, you're receiving it by RF coupling from the AC power lines or from > the motor directly. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AUDIO CIRCUITS? > You can also hear high-pitched signals in the 14 KHz range and above > (up to the limits of your hearing) by placing your radio near a > computer monitor. RIGHT. -SO? > > If Hans is serious about tracking down his alleged signal and alerting > people (I can't imagine why), TRY HARDER. > he would be advised to provide a clear description of his > instrumentation setup and measurement protocols (including methods of > eliminating artifacts within his own setup, computer monitors in his > neighborhood, and other obvious sources) so that his observations can > be replicated I WELCOME ADVICE, BUT WHAT YOU GOT IS ALL YOU'RE GONNA > GET. > (assuming he provides a reason why someone would want to do that). > WES, PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT, PROVIDING THEIR OWN REASONS. YOU SEEM > TO THINK THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID. THAT IS WHAT I > THINK A LOT OF FOLKS GET OUT OF READING THESE LETTERS OF YOURS. NO ONE HAS TO LISTEN TO ME, THEY DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES. THEY ARE WELCOME TO LISTEN TO "REASON" AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. THEY ARE NOT OBLIGED TO BELIEVE ANYTHING. SOME FOLKS JUST WANT TO EXPERIMENT, AND THAT IS ALL I DID, AND THEY CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT A HIGH ALERT IS "JUSTIFIED" IF THEY WANT TO SPEND ADDITIONAL TIME DOING THAT. THIS IS JUST A REPETITION OF YOUR PRIOR REQUESTS, WHICH AMOUNT TO TWO, AND I'LL RESPOND TO AN OTHER ONE RIGHT AFTER THIS. (MAKING FOUR) > WHAT IS YOUR POINT? IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK, I'M SURE YOU CAN > INVENT YOUR OWN CIRCUIT, PRECISELY CORRECT, REACH A CONCLUSION, AND > REPORT IT. CAN'T YOU HELP INSTEAD OF TEASING? > - Wes Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: contact list. Date: 97-08-22 04:56:21 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: ElfaleaH@aol.com (aleah) I would like to share with you the names of some very interesting people. My earliest contact was Lloyd Timothy McDuff Wallis. He was not of this world. His thinking inspired my development even further. He was last known to reside in Falkland, B.C. Jean Pierre Godard, who resides with me, and is extremely learned in the subject. Also, he saved my life. Kathleen Taves in Surrey, who was my wife. Rande Hansen in Burnaby, who travelled across B.C. and into Canmore, Alberta, when he was broke, to bring me equipment. (twice). He is a research and development specialist, vegeterian, doesn't sin, and protects any life-form with a nervous system. Keith Hatton, financier and mystic, in Edmonton. Colin and Deneb here in Canmore, who relate with me, and have a part of their own in the Final Days. Special and urgent mention must be made of Scott Marin, who is an expert with the numbers and their interpretations. -A successful dentist, he gave up that career to become an apparent recluse after an experience which infused him with the answers to numbers. He is devoted full time to this, and hard to understand unless you are a numbers person yourself. I can't understand.. Ask him about the pyramids . . . . Dorothy Izatt of Vancouver area, she is on UFO*BC website. Lorne Golfader, who got me interested in ELF. Joy Hartfield, now Joy Sowatzky, who was common-law wife and mystic. Gary Garbutt in Vernon, B.C., Who shares an interest in science applied to the esoteric, and has a company called, "Doctor Electronics". Leo (Bing) Whiteway, who has taught me much about reasoning in different paradigms. He is tops as far as technology goes, and a three-time inventor as well. Ian Wallace Reid in Kelowna, another one who is a thinker and inspired me. OONAN, the Old Order of Andromedan Natives. -This is my supposed guard as "Emissary from Andromeda". The Elohim, the Divine race of beings who did the actual work of creating for God. I'm not speaking about the "Ben Elohim". Mr. Ed Barker in Winnipeg , who also helped me to survive by re-uniting me with Jean Pierre. He deserves some recognition as curator and UFO investigator. -And soon. Wes Clark, somewhere in Saskatoon, who was attacked by perhaps the dark forces. Moana Thunken, known as "mermaid", who helped trigger some of the events going on now. Jason Dunlap! We all know him, and he has taken much of the heat meant for me. "Uncle Ted" in Burnaby, who provided much equipment free of charge. The many people in Vancouver area of the UFO circle, whom I ran away from, but miss dearly. Barry Plant in Penticton. Rolf Eipper in Vancouver, a world-traveler and collector of the unusual. Consuelo in West Vancouver, a psychic who accurately predicted to Jean Pierre who I am. There is Dave Fischer and Randall Murphy of USI in Calgary, who came to visit. I could go on, and give you 800+ names, but I'm told to stop at this point. Don't forget all my new friends through Kent Steadman, who himself is more than what is obvious. "Things are not as they appear." ,and "We are not as we appear." Words of weary space travellers in 1985 . . . The Light-Beings appeared in the White-Lake basin, near the radio observatory in Penticton. -Witnessed craft arrival, summoned with a signaller anyone can make. Have to go eat Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: HAARP Date: 97-08-22 05:04:37 EDT From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) To: Phikent@aol.com >What are they doing with HAARP? Are we all going to be zapped into oatmeal? Kent: I'm not an expert on HAARP, but I have been following it closely. First, HAARP is only operating now at reduced power, unlike the misinfo we're hearing. Second, there are much more powerful transmitters operating right now, as you've noted on your site. Third, I'm more impressed with Vassilatos' idea: that HAARP is for generating power from the ionosphere (see Secrets of Cold War Technology). I suspect (but can't prove) that the HAARP paranoia is a cover story to distract people from the real story (generating power and replacing oil). ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Weird signals? Date: 97-08-22 05:25:27 EDT From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) To: Phikent@aol.com Tnx, I'll explore the Vassilotos book on this further. Thanks. >"I believe I started Haarp idea in the 1960's due to someone I consulted >with. I'd love to talk to "dc" Please fwd my email to them if appropriate. BTW, I don't classify myself as a "debunker," contrary to what Hans says. I just want to get to the truth. W ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Weird signals? Date: 97-08-22 05:59:11 EDT From: Phikent To: west@sonic.net In a message dated 97-08-22 05:25:27 EDT, you write: << Tnx, I'll explore the Vassilotos book on this further. Thanks. >"I believe I started Haarp idea in the 1960's due to someone I consulted >with. I'd love to talk to "dc" Please fwd my email to them if appropriate. BTW, I don't classify myself as a "debunker," contrary to what Hans says. I just want to get to the truth. W >> I think these debates are okay even if there are a few jabs--breaks up the monotony. Politeness is sometimes to fragile a net for snaring truth. Mix head and gut is good, thinks me. I'm going much by hunch here because my technical knowledge is general only--trying to see the patterns and form a philosophy. The "dc" is Doris at: DorisChu@aol.com Grateful for your input. Cheers, Kento ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: my test! Date: 97-08-22 06:20:19 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: whiteway@portal.ca (Bing Whiteway) Bing Whiteway wrote: > Hi Hans; I have tried to duplicate your test in a much cruder fashion. > > I found a coil from an old monitor horizontal circuit. I have monted > it in > my window hanging from the top casement by a string. I have the scope > lead > connected directly to it and have found a sinewave showing a > semi-sinewave > which is probably modulated with either phase shift or frequency > modulation.. the frequency seems to be around 714khz. 49.98 TIMES > HIGHER THAN MY ORIGINAL! COULD IT BE AN EVEN HARMONIC? THE WAVE-SHAPE > IS GOING ALL OVER THE SPECTRUM. I WONDER IF IT IS PULSED EXTREMELY > FAST AND SCANNING THE WHOLE SPECTRUM, WITH EARTHLY CONDITIONS > DETERMINIG WHERE IT IS MOST EASILY DETECTED. > .I assume this is an am > radio staion broadcasting in am stereo. LIKE A PILOT CARRIER? > I will have to find a better way of adjusting my circuit to run > closer > to the 14 or 15 khz you mentioned..My scope is a 100Meg gould model > 5110 and > it has the amplitude and time metered on the screen so it rather easy > to see > the readings. The frequency I find as You did Hans. I used a > calculater to > determine the timing reciprocal so I can say the frequency is about > so. > I do find another signal around 33.33khz but that may be riding > on the > am signal.. I will try to jury-rig something up on the weekend that I > will > have more control of and see if I can find something more meaningful. > see you later.. > Leo (Bing) Whiteway > in Burnaby BC Canada...VE7UW @ VE7DIE.#SVI.BC.CAN.NA > > THANKS FOR THE CONFIRMATION BING. IT WILL ENCOURAGE THE OTHERS. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: IUFO: Re: Weird Vibes, Man (more) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:19:16 +0100 From: Kevin_Thomas@slc.co.uk Kevin Thomas@SLC_NOTES 08/22/97 08:19 AM It's funny all this talk about the 60Hz hum, here in Glasgow (Scotland) where I live I have noticed a similar 'ghosting' on the t.v. from time to time. It only appears for about 1-2 seconds and appears to scroll horizontally from right to left. It sounds silly but it is almost, but not quite, like the effect that was seen on t.v's during the movie independance day. Although not quite as clear. Is this something the makers of ID4 picked up on? The fact that the planet is covered with so many electromagnetic fields now that there IS interference on the radio and t.v. due to our increase in electrical appliances and the subsequent increase in power demands. Just a thought. Kev. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Bingo! The Buzz! The Love Frequency! Date: 97-08-22 11:41:38 EDT From: derryj@galesburg.net (Jane S. Derry) To: Phikent@aol.com (by way of voltron@voy.net (Jon Locke) This is exactly what I said a while back, it was in Tuella's books, how the 999 number was the number of the Masters, not the mark of the beast, as some want you to think. Only ascended masters have this bodily frequency, and it means that they have learned how to really love others and serve them in love. This is the UNCONDITIONAL love that everyone talks about. But few on Earth really know what it means. This is cool. I get verifications of these things from all over. And this is just one more. If you want to find out about how to measure the Schumann resonance, talk to Charlotte King, she has a friend who studies this. I seem to have lost the address. But it is nearly stableized at 13 right now. It reached it about two weeks ago. That is why the planet is about to go into its Cleansing, or the polar shift. It is the time foretold for ages! Forever, Tianca At 10:46 AM 8/22/97 +0100, you wrote: >This is a letter I read after my last post. Thisis confirmation of the Love >Frequency I wrote about in my booklet THE PHOTON BELT written two years >ago. >-Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Tom Caldwell Date: 97-08-22 12:53:26 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) Hi, Kent. Was Tom Caldwell really a debunker? Maybe I was too quick to jump at that assumption. There is a world of difference persistence-wise between him and Wes. Unless they're the same person. I keep getting these vibes that Wes is not who he seems to be. Post if you want, but I shouldn't actually fixate on him, let alone appear to do so.. The mail is really slinging through here on a private basis from people who really are overt. All thanks to your site, where they pick up on this. That's why I play my part and bother to debate. I'm not very good at that either, it seems. Remember: If you argue with me (a dummy), you're just a dummy too -for doing it. Good work on your part though, Kent. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION on HIGH ALERT! Date: 97-08-22 13:12:12 EDT From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) To: Phikent@aol.com Comments regarding message from "b///" ("debunker"): >I certainly can't use any of my radio equipment to pick up the frequency. It >is not RF as you indicate. b/// appears to be unfamiliar with antennas in the ELF/VLF domain. An 14 KHz RF signals requires special devices, such as a high-L coil and audio amplifier, as described by Hans. >14.28... khz is well within the range of human hearing. >It is an AF signal or audio frequency. A person can hear this sound b/// apparently is confusing audio (sound) and radio frequencies under 20 KHz. b/// may be confused by the fact that one can hear the 15.75 KHz sound from TV sets (assuming good high-frequency hearing). That's due to the fact that the horizontal output transformer in TV sets (especially older sets) mechanically vibrates (due to vibration of the laminated iron core) and therefore emits an sound wave that accompanies the (inaudible) RF signal it emits. If we could hear RF sounds in the ELF/VLF range, we would be constantly subjected to a 60/120 Hz hum from the ubiquitous electrical devices in our environment! (When the hum *is* audible, it's due to conversion to mechanical vibration, as in ballasts.) There are conditions where people *can* hear RF sounds directly, using a modulated microwave carrier, as in Prof. Alan Frey's work. >The poster does not describe the coupling between his 'ufo detector' and the >storage scope. Agreed. The description is too vague for me to understand too. >Little modulation exists. It is a steady tone, nothing more. Not according to WAVE.BMP, but again, Hans' description is too vague for me to comment on. >He's picking up artifacts induced from the electronic hookup because of his lack of knowledge. Since the hookup is not clearly described, that's a possibility. Another possibility is that he's picking up signals from computer monitors and other devices that emit signals in the 14 KHz range. Unless this system is set up in a remote location (away from all electronic devices) or under laboratory conditions, no meaningful conclusions can be drawn from Hans' reports so far. - Wes ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: (no subject) Date: 97-08-22 13:28:42 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@AOL.COM (phikent@aol.com) On wrdvibes2.txt, Wes says he is not a debunker. What is he then? He says he just wants to get at the truth. I think he is a master of innuendo and subliminal programming. When he says he wants to get at the truth, it implies that he is not at the truth now.(then neither are you) So I must be a liar, and yet he still asks all these very silly questions, and puts words in my mouth after the fact, again programming about vague random signals and so on. Folks, read between the lines, after you look at each word HE writes. He is building a substitute memory for you. ( it's a common technique, read Carl Sagan's book,' the Demon Haunted House'.) And this for a GOVERNMENT (not any more?) U-2 related top-notch technician, who advises the use of am radios to prove his point? (While I maintain AM radios are no substitute.) I take a very easy stance of sharing ideas to stimulate your thinking. So I can't claim to be gospel truth, but the frequency deal is real. Beyond that, nothing is provable by me, as far as I am concerned. You prove or disprove it for yourselves. In the case that Wes "just wants to get at the truth", WHY is he so interested yet WON'T accept that I answered each question as best I could? (provided JPEGS of the wave-form and so on, described what circuit I used etcetera, had made reference to the gravity detecting circuit - check the postings for yourself.) WHY is it so terribly urgent for him unless he also believes that there may be something to this? Surely such an educated man would buzz off and not even waste his time, if truly he knew for a fact that all this stuff is just pipe-dreams. No, I think he has an agenda. And it is not me perse he's interested in, nor what I reported specifically, I think he wants to maintain status-quo. AND I think he's doing this because maybe he really does know more than I do -not about electronics, but about the mystery! You see, if a genuine interest exists as expressed, a person will try to understand. His point seems to be that we must understand that the frequency is nothing, really, AND THIS SEEMS TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. (while at the same time he "doesn't 'understand", yet refutiates before reaching understanding.) Think about it. Read the letters again, if it matters to you, and notice he blocks each word, each phrase, each statement, and in general, the entire idea. When he repeats and repeats, but runs out of targets, he inserts words and descriptions I never used. After a while of this, even I have to re-read what I wrote, to get rid of false memories. In particular about the 'passive' where he edited out enough so he could pretend it had to do with the frequency counter. I have to get on to what I'm doing, so Wes has failed, and I get TWO stars from Kent. Continue with your private e-mail, no-one can distract there. Continue with this form of communication as well. It is enlightening in more ways than one. To Wes: Say what you are, beyond what you were. Or please be still. To Kent: My two stars, please, and be quick. In love and Light, Hans (incoherent, my butt.) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: (no subject) Date: 97-08-22 14:23:42 EDT From: Phikent To: arkel@telusplanet.net In a message dated 97-08-22 13:28:42 EDT, you write: << To Wes: Say what you are, beyond what you were. Or please be still. To Kent: My two stars, please, and be quick. In love and Light, Hans (incoherent, my butt.) >> Well, I'm just trying to be a swell feller to all--not that the Irish in me doesn't like a good..er...friendly brawl.. Not qualified to be a decent referee in matters techno, what I think I'll do right away here is to change the subject QUICKLY. I hereby award two stars to Kent M. Steadman for acute revelations as put forth in his animated, musical novel, CHASING SHADOW, found at: http://members.aol.com/phikent/shadow.htm which is the TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING (depending on how far one's drapes be drawn) Thankyou, thankyou, Kento, the Fierce ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Bingo! The Buzz! The Love Frequency! Date: 97-08-22 13:42:56 EDT From: rkrouse@inow.com (Robert Rouse) Reply-to: rkrouse@inow.com To: Phikent@aol.com (by way of voltron@voy.net (Jon Locke)) by way of voltron@voy.net (Jon Locke) wrote: > This is a letter I read after my last post. Thisis confirmation of the > Love > Frequency I wrote about in my booklet THE PHOTON BELT written two > years > ago. > -Jon I would like to know more about the Photon Belt. According to Sheldon Nidle we entered into it at the beginning of the year. I don't believe that there was any major difference that could be measured. Now, I'm looking for some more proof that a Photon Belt exisits. Robert ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Bingo! The Buzz! The Love Frequency! Date: 97-08-22 14:02:23 EDT From: Phikent To: rkrouse@inow.com In a message dated 97-08-22 13:42:56 EDT, you write: << would like to know more about the Photon Belt. According to Sheldon Nidle we entered into it at the beginning of the year. I don't believe that there was any major difference that could be measured. Now, I'm looking for some more proof that a Photon Belt exisits. Robert >> Hi Robert: Good thing I didn't zap my BeBopp site because I have a (Sheldon) photo of that photon belt right there, plain as twilight. http://members.aol.com/phikent/bopp.htm While your at it you might take a gander of the last known earth-seen image of Bopp. Kinda strange-- can see the Companion plain--true the astros call it a dust blob, but we know better don't we? Oh, animated too. http://members.aol.com/phikent/retreat.html Kent ------------------------------------------------------------------- EDITOR'S NOTE: What strikes me is not a conclusive proof here, but the more potent power of the mighty myth,ie, Thor vs.Vulcan. I shot off a note to Michael Lindemann, Myth-philosopher. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: CyberSpace ORBIT: GLOWWORM Date: 97-08-22 13:51:31 EDT From: CNINews1 To: Phikent Hi Kent, >Yo Michael--lotta dust flying around on these topics, therefore high in the myth category--time will tell (Kent).< Boy, no kidding. I'd just let these radio guys talk to each other. I can't tell if there's any meaning or significance to what they're saying. Hope you're well. Best, Michael Lindemann ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] Re: Bingo! The Buzz! Date: 97-08-22 15:23:08 EDT From: jferris@mindspring.com It might not be glucose levels though, Wes, Kent it might be because abductees have implants in them. Maybe the signals or buzz can affect implants. That could be why a vague random signal can affect abductees. Abductees are NOT regular average people, we have had tests, experimentation, and things done to us that we do not even know about. Best Regards, Joni jferris@mindspring.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: answers galore! Date: 97-08-22 15:59:46 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) Hi, all. It's Hans again. I would draw your attention to the books, "MATRIX II and MATRIX III" . Go to the leading edge international research group website. You'll find a detailed outline of what the books cover. Everything else is covered on the site also, from Tesla to Chemical and electromagnetic mind control. Thanks to Jon, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: no BCCs here. Date: 97-08-22 17:40:42 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com Phikent@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-08-22 13:28:42 EDT, you write: > > << To Wes: Say what you are, beyond what you were. Or please be > still. > > To Kent: My two stars, please, and be quick. > > In love and Light, > > Hans (incoherent, my butt.) >> > > Well, I'm just trying to be a swell feller to all--not that the Irish > in me > doesn't like a good..er...friendly brawl.. > > Not qualified to be a decent referee in matters techno, what I think > I'll do > right away here is to change the subject QUICKLY. > > I hereby award two stars to Kent M. Steadman for acute revelations as > put > forth in his animated, musical novel, CHASING SHADOW, found at: > http://members.aol.com/phikent/shadow.htm > which is the TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING > (depending on how far one's drapes be drawn) > > Thankyou, thankyou, > Kento, the Fierce Kento, that challenge was for Wes to identify himself---- See, that is my problem, I know what I'm trying to say, but often step on my tongue. No need to change the subject for my sake, though. I rather enjoy this, and I think I'll just ignore the famous rabble-rouser, and get on with fielding questions from the discreet one like yourself. I've got him figured though, haven't I? (Don't answer that, I might quote you.) Thanks a whole lot, Kent. I mean it. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] UFO and Black Op Scanning Frequencies? Date: 97-08-22 18:02:47 EDT From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) Sender: owner-starfriends@esosoft.com Reply-to: starfriends@esosoft.com To: starfriends@esosoft.com >>When I heard the story about the frequency that is being broadcasted >around the world I've looked into this and it appears to be a bogus story. I can provide technical reasons to anyone who is interested. >......I thought of the military and how they might be using a >>frequency......could this somehow be checked out? The military uses hundreds of frequencies. Frequencies in the VLF range (which includes 14 kHz, as reported by Hans) are widely used for navigation by the U.S. Navy, other governments, and the commercial shipping industry. Hans appears to have picked up one of these signals, but his report is too technically vague to evaluate. >Some have alleged that DARPA [Defense Advanced Research Projects >Agency] is involved in the implantation scenario, and that they >use microwave frequencies Microwave is about a million times higher in frequency than signals in the VLF range; there's no connection. As for microwave mind control, see . - Wes ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: gravity and frequency. Date: 97-08-22 19:30:09 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) Click on the taos hum image on page 3. From there, click on the taos hum home page. From there, click on the Hodowancek "gravity" detector under devices. From there, scroll down to the diagram for simple detector. Build the circuit, but leave out C1. Try to get an OP amp with null-offset. Use enough #32 copper enamel wire to measure around 1.4 KOhms, and scramble wind it onto a ferrite core measuring 1" diameter by 6 to 7 " in length. Connect the wound coil in place of the capacitor 1 by means of a fairly long twisted-pair cable, allowing you to place the coil outside. As Wes indicated, run the thing off a battery, and head for the hills, so that your apartment, motors, monitors, and all the rest are far, far, away. Run the output of the OP amp. directly to the input of an oscilloscope. I'll bet it would work. If you get that far, and it doesn't work, try the second diagram. If that doesn't work, If that doesn't work, add some variable resistors to fine-tune the supply voltage, the width of the null-offset, which acts as a trigger threshold if you use an OP amp with that feature, and the output. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: gravity and frequency. Date: 97-08-22 20:27:22 EDT From: Phikent I figure the portal can be opened from inside-out so to speak, no doodads, done it, been there. However it would be nice to have an on-off switch, so if you build a an electronic wormhole let me know. I wanna watch, up close, really up close. Kento ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Bingo! The Buzz! Date: 97-08-22 19:47:08 EDT From: Katydidit To: Phikent Kent, The interference, the sounds ... Couldn't it just be all the new-fangled sattelites that are out there, passing over (routinely) in all directions ? -- Regards, Katie ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Bingo! The Buzz! Date: 97-08-23 03:07:37 EDT From: Phikent To: Katydidit In a message dated 97-08-22 19:47:08 EDT, you write: << Kent, The interference, the sounds ... Couldn't it just be all the new-fangled sattelites that are out there, passing over (routinely) in all directions ? -- Regards, Katie >> That's the debate right now--going on the second hundred K-bytes at http://members.aol.com/ozwizrd8/orbit3.html Which vibe is which in an infinite sea, also Marconi guys vs Tesla and beyond guys. That's the gravity-wave of it, I think. Kent ------------------------------------------------------------------- j: Re: Bingo! The Buzz! The Love Frequency! Date: 97-08-22 20:15:55 EDT From: Asciiexp@concentric.net (ASCII Express) To: Phikent@aol.com (by way of voltron@voy.net (Jon Locke)) CC: onelove@logicdomain.com I hope this gets to the sender, this stuff really intrigues me. does anyone have more info on the 14.2857 KHZ? khz? not hz? hmn. well keep the cool frequency info coming! Currently listening to: Dispepsi, by Negativland ASCII Express Email:asciiexp@concentric.net name:Austin gal.sig:8 Cib Check out my web construct http://www.concentric.net/~asciiexp/ "That sounds like nonsense, but it's pure onsense!" - William James *****Ceiling fan maintenance specialist since 1943! ***** ------------------------------------------------------------------- alandewalton@hotmail.com (Alan deWalton) Sender: owner-starfriends@esosoft.com Reply-to: starfriends@esosoft.com To: jferris@mindspring.com, starfriends@esosoft.com >Hi William, > >When I heard the story about the frequency that is being broadcasted around >the world......I thought of the military and how they might be using a >frequency......could this somehow be checked out? >I am wondering about this.... >Was this frequency we heard about ever tested on abductees.....to see if >could affect implants in them? > >Best Regards, >Joni Some have alleged that DARPA [Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency] is involved in the implantation scenario, and that they use microwave frequencies to remotely access human minds that have been inplanted. I wonder if they are using the "strange cellur-phone towers" that have been reported, for this purpose? Norio Hayakawa has written about this. Anyone else have any further info on this possibility? Alan ------------------------------------------------------------------- : 97-08-22 20:35:20 EDT From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) Sender: owner-starfriends@esosoft.com Reply-to: starfriends@esosoft.com To: starfriends@esosoft.com Joni said: >That could be why a vague random signal can affect abductees. Yes, in the microwave region, but I'm not aware of any reports of VLF effects. See and my "Mind Control In Abductions" bibliography at for further info. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: [*STAR*] Re: Radar Detector/Destructor Date: 97-08-22 23:12:52 EDT From: Cimbid@aol.com Sender: owner-starfriends@esosoft.com Reply-to: starfriends@esosoft.com To: starfriends@esosoft.com CC: Cimbid@aol.com In a message dated 97-08-22 02:52:28 EDT, you write: << Hence, these circuits could be used to detect many types of signals, including radar signals. >> Philip Schneider made radar detectors. He had the electrical knowledge to create devices that could detect radar scans from police cars. That is probably easy and there are devices in stores that you can buy, but what he did next was something that was probably illegal, he created a device that was a radar DESTROYER. I think he used theories from Tesla, and "resonated" the radar signal, enhancing it's powers, and then "shipped" it back to it's source. It literally fried the sender. It made for an interesting thought. Why would you need stealth technology if you could simply detect when you are being "watched" by radar and could destroy them instead. Sincerely, Cynthia Schneider Drayer cimbid@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] Aliens & A-bombs Date: 97-08-23 03:25:53 EDT From: Phikent To: starfriends@esosoft.com In a message dated 97-08-22 23:36:13 EDT, you write: << << .that ufos can be here because of holes being created by the bombs. Do you have any of Philips papers stating this theory? >> Dear Joni No, I do not have any papers stating this theory, or any of his other theories because most of what he wrote is missing after his murder. He was about to write a book about government cover-ups, but the only thing left is my memories, and those of his friends, and a few videos. A lot of what I write in reply to Starfriends is my memory from our all-night-into-the-morning discussions that we often had. >> When the bombs went off the observers notice a disturbance in the electromagnetic realm. Later bombs were ignited in the upper atmosphere specifically to study these pulses (that Tesla actually observed earlier, the basis of his discovery of a whole new energy phenomenon, ie, radiant energy). Later came HAARP which the buccaneer-barons really love because it doesn't toast them too like the H-bomb at ground zero Badly paraphrasing "Secrets of Cold War Technology," Gerry Vassilatos. The pulse is the thing. Kento ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: a small channeling . . Date: 97-08-23 00:55:06 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) Phikent@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-08-21 20:42:09 EDT, you write: > > << Hi Kent: > > Could I have a bigger list of attrocities? I will check over them > with > their sources, if any, before I start slinging them. > > Hans. >> > > On the website, I just noted that the signal you are detecting might > be > altogether (BIGGER?) than HAARP and other sinister stuff. Have you > noticed the Trinity > expressed in your wave form? THE TRINITY! I WAS 'PROPHESYING' ABOUT > THE STAFF OF THE TRINITY IN 1988, AND IT WAS AN ELECTRONIC HOMING > DEVICE. > > If you want me to; I will zap the scary Fed stories off the > orbit3.html > site--it has been a running column, but maybe this is something > wonderful! > Be glad to make any changes. I put the site up quickly and it WILL > transform as my understanding comes into focus. NO, I'D SAY LEAVE THEM > ON AS LONG AS YOU LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW YET FOR SURE, ONLY WHAT COULD > BE. > http://members.aol.com/ozwizrd8/orbit.html > > As far as the letters, I may have missed some--I dunno. I'd say the > bulk are > supportive--only have two debunks so far--not bad--I get more per hour > than > that from m' kiddies. Folks are really excited! ALL PEOPLE ARE > WELCOME, DEBUNKERS, EVERYONE. IT IS RATHER EXCITING. > http://members.aol.com/ozwizrd8/wrdvibes.txt > > Your Chronicler, > Kent Steadman (Seattle, by the way, (206)439-1141) > CyberSpace ORBIT > http://members.aol.com/phikent/kent.htm "I SHALL COME AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT, AND NONE SHALL KNOW ME." "ALL KNEES SHALL BEND." SUPPOSING IT REALLY IS FROM THE CREATOR, AND NOT SOMETHING EVIL. IT COULD BE THE MESSIAH OR JESUS COME IN THE FORM OF AN ENERGY-BEING OF LIGHT, ANSWERING THE CALL OF HUMANITY. IF IT IS SOMETHING SINISTER, THEN WE MUST STILL ANALYZE IT, AND EXPERIMENT IN ORDER TO DUPLICATE THE TECHNOLOGY. THE WAR STILL HAS TO BE FOUGHT, AND THANKS TO YOUR WEB-SITE AND OTHERS, THE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH OF WORLD-WIDE INTEREST WILL AT LAST UNITE US ALL. IT IS PLAIN TO EVERYONE THAT THE WORLD CANNOT, AND WILL NOT, CONTINUE AS IT IS, AND IT IS BEYOND THE POWER OF ORDINARY LOGIC, SCIENCE, AND RELIGION TO SAVE IT. ALL THEY CAN DO IS OFFER HOPE. AND THEY ARE ALL CORRECT IN WANTING TO MAKE EXISTENCE BETTER. THIS IS WHAT I SEE: THE MASONS, ROSICRUCIANS, GOVERNMENTS, ZIONISTS, ALL RELIGIONS COMBINED, IN SHORT, EVERYONE- WANTS US TO BE SURVIVORS. AND THEY ARE ALL SO SERIOUS ABOUT IT, THAT THEY USE ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO AVOID WHAT THEY PERCEIVE AS REGRESSION. HENCE THE HORRORS OF THE CURE BEING WORSE THAN THE DISEASE. -ESPECIALLY WHEN THE DISEASE CANNOT BE CURED BY MUNDANE AND FERAL MEANS. BUT THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE HUMAN ON EARTH, WHO DOESN'T WANT A BETTER WORLD FOR EVERYONE. THE HATREDS AND WARS ARE SIMPLY EXPRESSIONS OF FRUSTRATION, AND FEAR. IN ALL PROBABILITY, THERE WILL STILL BE SOME ATROCITIES, AS SEEMS LOGICAL BEFORE THE FULL REALIZATION OF THE FINAL PROPHESY BECOMES APPARENT. AT THIS POINT, EVEN IF I'M CRAZY, OR/AND THE SIGNAL IS JUST SOMEONE'S VIBRATOR OR SOMETHING, NEVER MIND. THE STAGE IS SET. I PROMISE THAT RESEARCH INTO THE RESONANT RING WILL BRING RESULTS. THAT IS NOW IMMUTABLE. I HOPE THE RESULTS WILL BE ENTIRELY POSITIVE. BUT AT FIRST THE RESULTS MIGHT BE DEADLY. PEOPLE MUST KNOW THIS. IT IS DANGEROUS. IT MIGHT BE GOOD RIGHT FROM THE START. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS. "I CARRY A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD". SO IT MIGHT SWING EITHER WAY. IN ANY CASE, THIS MOMENT DETERMINES THAT HUMANITY WILL BE SURVIVING. -CHECK WITH THOSE IN POWER AT THE VATICAN TO VERIFY THAT THEY HAVE RESTRICTED DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO "NARROW BE THE GATES, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT." . ALSO, SOMETHING LIKE, "IT IS EASIER FOR A CAMEL TO PASS THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE THAN IT IS FOR A RICH MAN TO GET INTO HEAVEN.", COULD MEAN TWO THINGS. -FIRSTLY, ALL PEOPLE CAN GO. WITHOUT EXCEPTION. IT JUST MEANS THE RICH MUST HAVE NO REMORSE ABOUT LETTING GO WHEN IT IS TIME. SECONDLY, THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE. (SHELDON NIDLE?) MAY MEAN THAT AS THE STAFF OF THE TRINITY IS PERFECTED, AND ENOUGH HYPERSPACE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN BUILT, THAT WE CAN SAVE THE ANIMALS AS WELL AS OURSELVES. YES, THE PLANTS, ALL THINGS SO BEAUTIFUL AND PRECIOUS. UNLIKELY, BUT POSSIBLE IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT A CONTINGENCY PROGRAM IS IN PLACE WHICH IS DESCRIBED IN REVELATIONS AS THAT THE EARTH SHALL BE DESTROYED, AND A NEW ONE CREATED. THIS HAPPENS AFTER SIGNS IN THE SKY, SUCH AS BOPP-HALE, AND IT IS NOT OVER, THE SIGNS, THE FREQUENCY IS 'IN THE SKY', THE CHOICE OF PEOPLE IS IN THE AIR, AND A CONFLICT IS LIKELY WITH ALIENS SUCH AS DRACOS, WHICH ARE FURIOUS, AS LONG AGO, THERE WAS A COMMON ORIGIN BETWEEN THEM AND US. IT IS ACTUALLY GOOD THAT WE HAVE SO MANY NUCLEAR WEAPONS, ELIPTON WEAPONS, REALITY DISTORTERS, PSHYCHOTRONICS, AND SO ON. IT SCARES HELL OUT OF THE ALIENS. THE LAW OF NON-INTERFERENCE IS BEING WAIVED BY THE ANDROMEDAN LIGHT-BEINGS, WHO SACRIFICE THEMSELVES FOR US. THERE ARE AT PRESENT, ANDROMEDAN GENETICALLY-CODED HUMANS, AWAITING THE SIGNAL FOR THEIR ACTIVATION. BUT NONE SHALL ACT, ONLY THEN IF HUMANITY CANNOT MAKE IT ON THEIR OWN, AND HAS IN BONA-FIDE FACT GIVEN ITS ALL TO SURVIVE. THAT IS WHY LOVE IS SO IMPORTANT. BUT ACTION IS MORE IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THE REASON FOR EXISTENCE, THE PURPOSE OF LIFE, IS THAT GOD WANTS US TO SAVE THE MATERIAL, AND ELEVATE ALL THAT WE CAN INTO THE NEXT DIMENSION, WHICH IS MORE SPIRITUAL AND CLOSER TO THE BOSOM OF THE SOURCE. I CAN SEE A TIME WHEN EVERYONE WILL READ THESE WORDS, AND THEY WILL CRY TEARS, AND SAY, "IF ONLY IT COULD BE." I SAY, "IT SHALL BE SO. AND YOU WILL MAKE IT SO." . IF WE CANNOT TAKE THE WHOLE PLANET WITH US, THAT BELOVED MOTHER EARTH, THEN WE MUST LEAVE HER, BUT SHE WAS NOT MADE TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE EVIL ALIENS. SHE WAS CREATED FOR GOD'S CHILDREN ALONE. IN THAT CASE SHE WILL DIE AN HONORABLE DEATH, HAVING SERVED US WELL. IN EITHER CASE, WE ARE GOING HOME SOON. hans ------------------------------------------------------------------- te: 97-08-23 03:41:47 EDT From: Phikent To: arkel@telusplanet.net In a message dated 97-08-23 00:55:06 EDT, you write: << IF WE CANNOT TAKE THE WHOLE PLANET WITH US, THAT BELOVED MOTHER EARTH, THEN WE MUST LEAVE HER, BUT SHE WAS NOT MADE TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE EVIL ALIENS. SHE WAS CREATED FOR GOD'S CHILDREN ALONE. IN THAT CASE SHE WILL DIE AN HONORABLE DEATH, HAVING SERVED US WELL. IN EITHER CASE, WE ARE GOING HOME SOON. hans >> Ahhh, now I see your vantage point in all this. Most excellent. I'll mind-dive back to you here from Voice (a coupla years ago). http://members.aol.com/phikent/first.htm "If you were to trip a silent switch you would remember the time parallel when the world was only a vacation, a place with meadows and streams. A place to project into form -- a becoming of meadows and streams or even strange creatures with flesh and passions; or to stalk void-night with battles against the dark Firbolg who had fallen so far. Our kind would not stay on Terra long for soon would come a weariness of form. Off again we would soar into the stars in tease of other worlds or to leap beyond substance into planes where rivers of light. But even with our many distant wingings Terra would call the return, and She became for unspoken eons our favorite island, our 'Homeworld.'" "Upon one solar day a strange vessel of beings appeared on the central island. Declaring to be of creation with beginning and end, they were of our likeness -- as though brothers and sister -- a puzzle to us of the flame-trussed DÆDanaan who knew ourselves to be of the Unborn. Oddly, we could mingle with these like-beings that declared themselves,"Celt," and at first we confided our secrets and showed to them our castles, mounds and secret groves. So kin we were to them that we bonded as mates to even bear children -- strange little wise beings they were half-mortal and half free. These children we taught the ancient arts and flew with them to deep ports in the heavens. It was most puzzling when before our DÆDanaan gaze the fragile halflings wrinkled -- and died -- and winged away to places that even we of the Unborn could never go." Kento ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] Re: Radar Detector/Destructor Date: 97-08-23 01:18:43 EDT From: jferris@mindspring.com Sender: owner-starfriends@esosoft.com Reply-to: starfriends@esosoft.com To: starfriends@esosoft.com Hi Cynthia, Do you know if he talked about getting this type of knowledge from when he was in "Atlantis"? Does he make any reference notes at all about this.....about radar? You know, this sounds very familiar to me deflecting energy back to the source it originates from to destroy or disable it. Jim, doesn't this sound familiar to you? I know this sounds strange, but that is a way to fight the reptilians, is with energy in the other dimension. I cannot remember exactly because I have a form of amnesia about this.....but I know that I do do this there! Best Regards, Joni jferris@mindspring.com >In a message dated 97-08-22 02:52:28 EDT, you write: > ><< Hence, these > circuits could be used to detect many types of signals, including > radar signals. >> > >Philip Schneider made radar detectors. He had the electrical knowledge to >create devices that could detect radar scans from police cars. That is >probably easy and there are devices in stores that you can buy, but what he >did next was something that was probably illegal, he created a device that >was a radar DESTROYER. I think he used theories from Tesla, and "resonated" >the radar signal, enhancing it's powers, and then "shipped" it back to it's >source. It literally fried the sender. It made for an interesting thought. > Why would you need stealth technology if you could simply detect when you >are being "watched" by radar and could destroy them instead. > >Sincerely, >Cynthia Schneider Drayer >cimbid@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: [*STAR*] Re: Radar Detector/Destructor Date: 97-08-23 03:59:23 EDT From: Phikent To: starfriends@esosoft.com I heard a rumor that the infamous Woodpecker signal was powered by Chernobyl. It was sent back to its source too. KABOOM. Kento ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: gravity and frequency. Date: 97-08-23 08:25:41 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com Phikent@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-08-22 19:30:09 EDT, arkel@telusplanet.net > (godard j. > p.) writes: > > << > Click on the taos hum image on page 3. From there, click on the taos > > hum home page. > From there, click on the Hodowancek "gravity" detector under devices. > > From there, scroll down to the diagram for simple detector. > > Build the circuit, but leave out C1. Try to get an OP amp with > null-offset. > > Use enough #32 copper enamel wire to measure around 1.4 KOhms, and > scramble wind it onto a ferrite core measuring 1" diameter by 6 to 7 > " > in length. > > Connect the wound coil in place of the capacitor 1 by means of a > fairly > long twisted-pair cable, allowing you to place the coil outside. As > Wes > indicated, run the thing off a battery, and head for the hills, so > that > your apartment, motors, monitors, and all the rest are far, far, > away. > > Run the output of the OP amp. directly to the input of an > oscilloscope. > > I'll bet it would work. If you get that far, and it doesn't work, try > > the second diagram. If that doesn't work, If that doesn't work, add > some variable resistors to fine-tune the supply voltage, the width of > > the null-offset, which acts as a trigger threshold if you use an OP > amp > with that feature, and the output. > > Hans > > >> > > I figure the portal can be opened from inside-out so to speak, no > doodads, > done it, been there. However it would be nice to have an on-off > switch, so > if you build a an electronic wormhole let me know. I wanna watch, up > close, > really up close. > > Kento I wish Kent, I wish. I'm sitting here reading this, and just shaking with emotion for some reason. Something you wrote here is triggering a bit of deja-vu. Are you saying you'll volunteer to try it? I'm scared, man. The thing will work, but I don't know enough to guarantee how. That's the big problem. I get info when it's given. I can't push it, I can't pull it. -Nothing can force it, even death. I don't seem to matter. Only the situational circumstances, if genuine, can open the flow. Tell me in mutual privacy how you been there, done that. Inside out? You mean non nuts and bolts? What you seen, man? You had experience, then you must recognize me. Trouble is, who you? You the facilitator? Now I see why you responded to IFF request. On the side, though, don't forget a heckuvalong extension cord for the scope. 'less they got ports. The mystery, the mystery. Your serve. Hans -------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: HOHE ACHTUNG! Date: 97-08-23 12:43:12 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) Gravity detector works as claimed. -Need to build the buffer stage for further fun. Used it for detecting magnetic waves also. -Fascinating Used 1 minute time-line for gravity, 3 minute time-line for magnetics. Would like to have two circuits, and run them into the dual-input of the scope for tracking.. -Don't think motors would affect gravity AND magnetic waves simultaneously. I'm DARN sure AM radios won't disprove this. Advice: Replace twisted pair wire cable I mentioned before, with co-axial cable for The Frequency. Twisted pair functions, when near-nullifying, can be better employed for FTL communications. Hans -------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Free energy Date: 97-08-23 12:48:20 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) I built the "Fluid Motor" for twenty cents. (Canadian) Can anyone verify that it is real? There were no air currents. Even if there were undetectable ones, I reversed the direction of the motor with my mind or eyes. Hans -------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: figured it out! JOKE TIME! Date: 97-08-23 15:30:26 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: whiteway@portal.ca (Bing Whiteway) Bing Whiteway wrote: > Hi there Hans; I have it figured out. The signals you are seeing are > emanating from the Microslop band wagon you guys are all on. It is > caused > mainy by the squeeky wheels crying out for grease. I think wee billy > gaits > has finally managed to 'wire the world' with wireless data signals > that > carry the cookie and certificate information back to microslop > headquarters > in Seattle so that bill can claim the programmers reward for copywrite > > infringments. You and all the rest of who are harbouring pirate > software > using internet stations had better beware. The 'big head' is all > seeing and > all knowing. You are in danger! > 73 de Bing > > Leo (Bing) Whiteway > in Burnaby BC Canada...VE7UW @ VE7DIE.#SVI.BC.CAN.NA > > Windoze95 has been voted "VIRUS of the YEAR" > > Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive GOOD ONE, BING. I'LL TELL THE WORLD FOR YOU! IT'S TIME EVERONE ELSE HAD THE FEAR OF GOD PUT INTO THEM. -----I'VE BEEN PEEING MYSELF SINCE I GOT NO REPLY FROM HIM WHEN I ASKED REUTERS TO TELL HIM I NEED A FEW BILLION TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM EVIL. hans -------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Wood pecker Date: 97-08-23 17:51:55 EDT From: arkel@telusplanet.net (godard j. p.) To: Phikent@aol.com (phikent@aol.com) The WOODPECKER signal. Rings an art, here. I used to listen to it in 1959 at least to 1977. on short-wave. I think it was supposed to have been based in the Urinal Mountains in Russia? It sounded like a clipped jackhammer or old daisy-wheel printer. It would fade in, then out. But you could track it by turning your knob for tuning. Keith called Art Bell. Art wanted the initializing letter. He may be phoning me. I don't want to be on his show. Maybe I'll be debunked. So he can read postings like the rest of us. The connection of the Woodpecker. Do you think that the "vague random signal", may be scanning the non-electro-static spectrum? Do you suppose that the WPsignal might have been active magnetically? I had some flak about electro-magnetic versus electro-static. I pointed out somewhere that it is important. There is also the capacitive technology. This in fact is employed for detecting the gravity waves. Now this: Check the net regarding propulsion means for UFO-like craft. Was it in the anti-gravity handbook by Timothy Good? They used electro-magnetic, electro-static, and electro-capacitive, all three, and DISTINCT from each other, though phased. Further on this, how many of you know about the hollow cast-iron torus filled totally with mercury? This thing was reputed to attain infinite acceleration up to self-destruction. Vimanas. Iron bottles containing Mercury for flight. An article about another container using evaporation-condensation cycles of Mercury within a magnetic field to generate electricity. The same thing running backwards produced gravity-waves. Read about growing super-conducting hulls. This is one I dreamed up myself, it's on the site. In the poems, where it starts about the elements. Thomas Caldwell or anyone else, have you de-coded the poem with "Bambara"? Is it true??? No one turmned in any homework today except Kent. Also, forget about grilling Doris for a while. I got at it first. Hans -------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: Wood pecker Date: 97-08-23 18:17:04 EDT From: Phikent To: arkel@telusplanet.net In a message dated 97-08-23 17:51:55 EDT, you write: << The WOODPECKER signal. Rings an art, here. I used to listen to it in 1959 at least to 1977. on short-wave. I think it was supposed to have been based in the Urinal Mountains in Russia? It sounded like a clipped jackhammer or old daisy-wheel printer. It would fade in, then out. But you could track it by turning your knob for tuning. >> Some bucko announced on Art Bell, (years ago) that somehow the Americans fed a signal back down the throat of the PeckerWood. Chernobyl (Pecker power source) went KABOOM. Kento -------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 97 12:03:28 EDT From: "Patrick K. Frye" Reply-To: iufo@world.std.com To: "Kevin," -> SearchNet's IUFO Mailing List Hi Kevin, Although our tv systems are a bit different, they operate very similarly. A 60 hz hum will always, I believe show up as noise bars that run across the screen horizontally and seem to move up the screen very slowly and when they go off the top, they reappear at the bottom. When you see a verticle line on your tv, it is usally a ghost (reflection) of the signal you're watching or some- times, a second signal on the same frequency trying to show up on your tv. In either case, they are out of time and move back and forth on the screen. That is why the 60 cycle hum moves up the screen, it is out of time and sync with the picture and drifts slightly. I'm told the 60 cycle is caused by "dirty" motors, that is motors that have defectives and creat a lot of noise. Does anyone know why there arre two bars when you see it? Peace and regards, Pat -> Send "subscribe iufo " to majordomo@world.std.com -> Posted by: "Patrick K. Frye" -------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: IUFO: "WONDER WEAPONS" that will do everything, like magic. Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 15:14:57 -800 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" >NOT TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES: > >Wonder Weapons > >The Pentagon's quest for nonlethal arms is amazing. But is it smart? > > BY DOUGLAS PASTERNAK > > Tucked away in the corner of a drab industrial park in >Huntington Beach, Calif., is a windowless, nondescript building. Inside, >under extremely tight security, engineers and scientists are working on >devices whose ordinary appearance masks the oddity of their function. >One is cone shaped, about the size of a fire hydrant. Another is a >3-foot-long metal tube, mounted on a tripod, with some black boxes at >the operator's end. These are the newest weapons of war. > > For hundreds of years, sci-fi writers have imagined >weapons that might use energy waves or pulses to knock out, knock down, >or otherwise disable enemies--without necessarily killing them. And for >a good 40 years the U.S. military has quietly been pursuing weapons of >this sort. Much of this work is still secret, and it has yet to produce >a usable "nonlethal" weapon. But now that the cold war has ended and the >United States is engaged in more humanitarian and peacekeeping missions, >the search for weapons that could incapacitate people without inflicting >lethal injuries has intensified. Police, too, are keenly interested. >Scores of new contracts have been let, and scientists, aided by >government research on the "bioeffects" of beamed energy, are searching >the electromagnetic and sonic spectrums for wavelengths that can affect >human behavior. Recent advancements in miniaturized electronics, power >generation, and beam aiming may finally have put such pulse and beam >weapons on the cusp of practicality, some experts say. > > Weapons already exist that use lasers, which can >temporarily or permanently blind enemy soldiers. So-called acoustic or >sonic weapons, like the ones in the aforementioned lab, can vibrate the >insides of humans to stun them, nauseate them, or even "liquefy their >bowels and reduce them to quivering diarrheic messes," according to a >Pentagon briefing. Prototypes of such weapons were recently considered >for tryout when U.S. troops intervened in Somalia. Other, stranger >effects also have been explored, such as using electromagnetic waves to >put human targets to sleep or to heat them up, on the microwave- oven >principle. Scientists are also trying to make a sonic cannon that throws >a shock wave with enough force to knock down a man. > > While this and similar weapons may seem far-fetched, >scientists say they are natural successors to projects already >underway--beams that disable the electronic systems of aircraft, >computers, or missiles, for instance. "Once you are into these >antimateriel weapons, it is a short jump to antipersonnel weapons," says >Louis Slesin, editor of the trade journal Microwave News. That's because >the human body is essentially an electrochemical system, and devices >that disrupt the electrical impulses of the nervous system can affect >behavior and body functions. But these programs--particularly those >involving antipersonnel research--are so well guarded that details are >scarce. "People [in the military] go silent on this issue," says Slesin, >"more than any other issue. People just do not want to talk about this." > > Projects underway. To learn what the Pentagon has >been doing, U.S. News talked to more than 70 experts and scoured >biomedical and engineering journals, contracts, budgets, and research >proposals. The effort to develop exotic weapons is surprising in its >range. Scores of projects are underway, most with funding of several >hundred thousand dollars each. One Air Force lab plans to spend more >than $100 million by 2003 to research the "bioeffects" of such weaponry. > > The benefits of bloodless battles for soldiers and law >enforcement are obvious. But the search for new weapons--cloaked as they >are in secrecy--faces hurdles. One is the acute skepticism of many >conventional-weapons experts. "It is interesting technology but it >won't end bloodshed and wars," says Harvey Sapolsky, director of the >Security Studies Program at MIT. Says Charles Bernard, a former Navy >weapons-research director: "I have yet to see one of these ray gun >things that actually works." And if they do work, other problems arise: >Some so-called nonlethal weapons could end up killing rather than just >disabling victims if used at the wrong range. Others may easily be >thwarted by shielding. > > Sterner warnings come from ethicists. Years ago the >world drafted conventions and treaties to attempt to set rules for the >use of bullets and bombs in war. But no treaties govern the use of >unconventional weapons. And no one knows what will happen to people >exposed to them over the long term. > > Moreover, medical researchers worry that their work on >such things as the use of electromagnetic waves to stimulate hearing in >the deaf or to halt seizures in epileptics might be used to develop >weaponry. In fact, the military routinely has approached the National >Institutes of Health for research information. "DARPA [Defense Advanced >Research Projects Agency] has come to us every few years to see if there >are ways to incapacitate the central nervous system remotely," Dr. F. >Terry Hambrecht, head of the Neural Prosthesis Program at NIH, told U.S. >News. "But nothing has ever come of it," he said. "That is too science >fiction and far-fetched." Still, the Pentagon plans to conduct human >testing with lasers and acoustics in the future, says Charles Swett, an >assistant for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict. Swett >insists that the testing will be constrained and highly ethical. It may >not be far off. The U.S. Air Force expects to have microwave weapons by >the year 2015 and other nonlethal weaponry sooner. "When that does >happen," warns Steven Metz, professor of national security affairs at >the U.S. Army War College, "I think there will be a public uproar. We >need an open debate on them now." > > Laser ethics > > What happened with U.S. forces in Somalia foreshadows >the impending ethical dilemmas. In early 1995, some U.S. marines were >supplied with so-called dazzling lasers. The idea was to inflict as >little harm as possible if Somalis turned hostile. But the marines' >commander then decided that the lasers should be "de-tuned" to prevent >the chance of their blinding citizens. With their intensity thus >diminished, they could be used only for designating or illuminating >targets. > > On March 1, 1995, commandos of U.S. Navy SEAL Team 5 >were positioned at the south end of Mogadishu airport. At 7 a.m., a >technician from the Air Force's Phillips Laboratory, developer of the >lasers, used one to illuminate a Somali man armed with a >rocket-propelled grenade. A SEAL sniper shot and killed the Somali. >There was no question the Somali was aiming at the SEALs. But the >decision not to use the laser to dazzle or temporarily blind the man >irks some of the nonlethal-team members. "We were not allowed to disable >these guys because that was considered inhumane," said one. "Putting a >bullet in their head is somehow more humane?" > > Despite such arguments, the International Red Cross and >Human Rights Watch have since led a fight against antipersonnel lasers. >In the fall of 1995, the United States signed a treaty that prohibits >the development of lasers designed "to cause permanent blindness." >Still, laser weapons are known to have been developed by the Russians, >and proliferation is a big concern. Also, the treaty does not forbid >dazzling or "glare" lasers, whose effects are temporary. U.S. military >labs are continuing work in this area, and commercial contractors >are marketing such lasers to police. > > Acoustic pain > > The next debate may well focus on acoustic or sonic >weapons. Benign sonic effects are certainly familiar, ranging from the >sonic boom from an airplane to the ultrasound instrument that "sees" a >baby in the uterus. The military is looking for something less >benign--an acoustic weapon with frequencies tunable all the way up to >lethal. > > Indeed, Huntington Beach-based Scientific Applications & >Research Associates Inc. (SARA) has built a device that will make >internal organs resonate: The effects can run from discomfort to damage >or death. If used to protect an area, its beams would make intruders >increasingly uncomfortable the closer they get. "We have built several >prototypes," says Parviz Parhami, SARA's CEO. Such acoustic fences, he >says, could be deployed today. He estimates that five to 10 years will >be needed to develop acoustic rifles and other more exotic weapons, >but adds, "I have heard people as optimistic as one to two years." The >military also envisions acoustic fields being used to control riots or >to clear paths for convoys. > > SARA's acoustic devices have already been tested at the >Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Base, near the company's Huntington Beach >office. And they were considered for Somalia. "We asked for acoustics," >says one nonlethal weapons expert who was there. But the Department of >Defense said, "No," since they were still untested. The Pentagon feared >they could have caused permanent injury to pregnant women, the old, or >the sick. Parhami sees acoustics "as just one more tool" for the >military and law enforcement. "Like any tool, I suppose this can be >abused," he says. "But like any tool, it can be used in a humane and >ethical way." > > Toward the end of World War II, the Germans were >reported to have made a different type of acoustic device. It looked >like a large cannon and sent out a sonic boomlike shock wave that in >theory could have felled a B-17 bomber. In the mid-1940s, the U.S. Navy >created a program called Project Squid to study the German vortex >technology. The results are unknown. But Guy Obolensky, an American >inventor, says he replicated the Nazi device in his laboratory in 1949. >Against hard objects the effect was astounding, he says: It could snap a >board like a twig. Against soft targets like people, it had a different >effect. "I felt like I had been hit by a thick rubber blanket," says >Obolensky, who once stood in its path. The dea seemed to founder for >years until recently, when the military was intrigued by its >nonlethal possibilities. The Army and Navy now have vortex projects >underway. The SARA lab has tested its prototype device at Camp >Pendleton, one source says. > > Electromagnetic heat > > The Soviets were known to have potent blinding lasers. >They were also feared to have developed acoustic and radio-wave weapons. >The 1987 issue of Soviet Military Power, a cold war Pentagon >publication, warned that the Soviets might be close to "a prototype >short-range tactical RF [radio frequency] weapon." The Washington Post >reported that year that the Soviets had used such weapons to kill goats >at 1 kilometer's range. The Pentagon, it turns out, has been pursuing >similar devices since the 1960s. > > Typical of some of the more exotic proposals are those >from Clay Easterly. Last December, Easterly--who works at the Health >Sciences Research Division of Oak Ridge National Laboratory--briefed the >Marine Corps on work he had conducted for the National Institute of >Justice, which does research on crime control. One of the projects he >suggested was an electromagnetic gun that would "induce epilepticlike >seizures." Another was a "thermal gun [that] would have the operational >effect of heating the body to 105 to 107" degrees Fahrenheit. Such >effects would bring on discomfort, fevers, or even death. > > But, unlike the work on blinding lasers and acoustic >weapons, progress here has been slow. The biggest problem is power. >High-powered microwaves intended to heat someone standing 200 yards away >to 105 degrees Fahrenheit may kill someone standing 10 yards away. On >the other hand, electromagnetic fields weaken quickly with distance from >the source. And beams of such energy are difficult to direct to their >target. Mission Research Corp. of Albuquerque, N.M., has used a computer >model to study the ability of microwaves to stimulate the body's >peripheral nervous system. "If sufficient peripheral nerves fire, then >the body shuts down to further stimulus, producing the so-called stun >effect," an abstract states. But, it concludes, "the ranges at which >this can be done are only a few meters." > > Nonetheless, government laboratories and private >contractors are pursuing numerous similar programs. A 1996 Air Force >Scientific Advisory Board report on future weapons, for instance, >includes a classified section on a radio frequency or "RF Gunship." >Other military documents confirm that radio-frequency antipersonnel >weapons programs are underway. And the Air Force's Armstrong Laboratory >at Brooks Air Force Base in Texas is heavily engaged in such research. >According to budget documents, the lab intends to spend more than $110 >million over the next six years "to exploit less-than-lethal biological >effects of electromagnetic radiation for Air Force security, >peacekeeping, and war-fighting operations." > > Low-frequency sleep > > From 1980 to 1983, a man named Eldon Byrd ran the Marine >Corps Nonlethal Electromagnetic Weapons project. He conducted most of >his research at the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in >Bethesda, Md. "We were looking at electrical activity in the brain and >how to influence it," he says. Byrd, a specialist in medical engineering >and bioeffects, funded small research projects, including a paper on >vortex weapons by Obolensky. He conducted experiments on animals--and >even on himself--to see if brain waves would move into sync with waves >impinging on them from the outside. (He found that they would, but the >effect was short lived.) > > By using very low frequency electromagnetic >radiation--the waves way below radio frequencies on the electromagnetic >spectrum--he found he could induce the brain to release >behavior-regulating chemicals. "We could put animals into a stupor," he >says, by hitting them with these frequencies. "We got chick brains--in >vitro--to dump 80 percent of the natural opioids in their brains," Byrd >says. He even ran a small project that used magnetic fields to cause >certain brain cells in rats to release histamine. In humans, this >would cause instant flulike symptoms and produce nausea. "These fields >were extremely weak. They were undetectable," says Byrd. "The effects >were nonlethal and reversible. You could disable a person temporarily," >Byrd hypothesizes. "It [would have been] like a stun gun." > > Byrd never tested any of his hardware in the field, and >his program, scheduled for four years, apparently was closed down after >two, he says. "The work was really outstanding," he grumbles. "We would >have had a weapon in one year." Byrd says he was told his work would be >unclassified, "unless it works." Because it worked, he suspects that the >program "went black." Other scientists tell similar tales of research on >electromagnetic radiation turning top secret once successful results >were achieved. There are clues that such work is continuing. In 1995, >the annual meeting of four-star U.S. Air Force generals--called >CORONA--reviewed more than 1,000 potential projects. One was called "Put >the Enemy to Sleep/Keep the Enemy From Sleeping." It called for >exploring "acoustics," "microwaves," and "brain-wave manipulation" to >alter sleep patterns. It was one of only three projects approved for >initial investigation. > > Direct contact > > As the military continues its search for nonlethal >weapons, one device that works on contact has already hit the streets. >It is called the "Pulse Wave Myotron." A sales video shows it in action. >A big, thuggish-looking "criminal" approaches a well-dressed woman. As >he tries to choke her, she touches him with a white device about the >size of a pack of cigarettes. He falls to the floor in a fetal position, >seemingly paralyzed but with eyes open, and he does not recover for >minutes. > > "Contact with the Myotron," says the narrator, "feels >like millions of tiny needles are sent racing through the body. This is >a result of scrambling the signals from the motor cortex region of the >brain," he says. "It is horrible," says William Gunby, CEO of the >company that developed the Myotron. "It is no toy." The Myotron >overrides voluntary--but not involuntary--muscle movements, so the >victim's vital functions are maintained. Sales are targeted at women, >but law enforcement officers and agencies--including the Arizona state >police and bailiffs with the New York Supreme Court--have purchased the >device, Gunby says. A special model built for law enforcement, called >the Black Widow, is being tested by the FBI, he says. "I hope they don't >order a lot soon," he adds. "The Russian government just ordered 100,000 >of them, and I need to replenish my stock." > > The U.S. military also has shown interest in the >Myotron. "About the time of the gulf war, I got calls from people in the >military," recalls Gunby. "They asked me about bonding the Myotron's >pulse wave to a laser beam so that everyone in the path of the laser >would collapse." While it could not be done, Gunby says, he nonetheless >was warned to keep quiet. "I was told that these calls were totally >confidential," he says, "and that they would completely deny it if I >ever mentioned it." > > Some say such secrecy is necessary in new-weapons >development. But others think it is a mistake. "Because the programs are >secret, the sponsorship is low level, and the technology is >unconventional," says William Arkin of Human Rights Watch Arms Project, >"the military has not done any of the things to determine if the money >is being well spent or the programs are a good idea." It should not be >long before the evidence is in. > >Send comments to webmaster@usnews.com > >c Copyright U.S. News & World Report, Inc. All rights reserved. >---------------------------- >Billy Dee Remarks! > I guess it is alright now, for me to come out with what >I know of these exotic weapons. I knew all this over a year ago, but >was not allowed to come out with it, until it was made news from >other source's. The beam weapon you speak of, is called an "Ion >Cannon". What this is and does, is this. It is used to shoot down >UFOs. Shoot out their gravity machines, thus forcing them to crash >and explode. The "Ion Cannon" is capable of reaching heights of >3,000 to 5,000 feet, with full effectiveness. We have the technology >of this weapon, and it is in use today. > The other weapon, which is comprised of microwaves, is >called, "Microwave Pistol". This microwave pistol is lethal up to >the length of a football field and a little further. The microwaves >shot out from the pistol, disinigrate the being that it is being >fired at. The disinegration, is within seconds, and total >disinegration. In other words, the being being shot with this >happen, just vanishes in seconds. This weapon is also in our >arsenal. -------------------------------------------------------------- EDITOR'S NOTE: discussion to continue at http://members.aol.com/ozwizrd8/wrdvi3.txt