ANTIDOTE FOR DINO-GOO
Date: 9/26/01 12:39:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time
DISCOVERY JUST RAN A PROGRAM ON NEW ENGINES FOR CARS. GUESS WHAT
VERY EXPENSIVE FUEL CELLS
VERY EXPENSIVE CONVERTERS
ALSO BRAND NEW CARBON FIBRES THAT SOAK UP HYDROGEN.
CLEARLY HUGE SUMS BEING SPENT ON JUNK. WHY JUNK. BECAUSE IT IS UNNECESSARY.
THE CONVERTER IS TO EXTRACT HYDROGEN FROM METHANOL. NOW I AM NO CHEMIST BUT THERE IS A LOT MORE HYDROGEN IN WATER AND IT IS DAMMED EASY TO EXTRACT.
THEY SHOWED A ONE LITRE BOTTLE. CLAIMED (STRAIGHT FACED) IF FILLED UNDER HIGH PRESSURE WITH HYDROGEN IT WOULD DRIVE A VEHICLE FOR ONE MILE. ERGO 250 LITRES OF HYDROGEN WILL DRIVE YOU ONE MILE. THEN THEY ADDED WITH A DISARMING SMILE THAT IF THEY FILLED THE ONE LITRE BOTTLE WITH THEIR FIBRE THEN ADDED HYDROGEN THE CAR WOULD DO 1,250 MILES. WHAT UTTER BULL.
ALSO TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF FUEL CELLS WAS BULL. CATALYST STRIPS ELECTRON FROM HYDROGEN AND THESE ARE FED TO MOTORS. ARE THEY CLAIMING WHAT????.
SIMPLE ANSWER ON STONE AGE PRINCIPALS IS SPLIT WATER TO GET HYDROGEN. BURN HYDROGEN TO TURN MOTOR, WASTE IS WATER. ITS THAT BLOODY SIMPLE.
LOOK AT METHANOL/ETHANOL. HOW MUCH HYDROGEN PER LITRE, HOW MUCH CRAP. THIS CLUGS THE CONVERTER WHICH MUST BE CLEANED.
GOOD OLD H20 CANNOT GET MORE HYDROGEN PET LITRE AND CLEANER. OK TAP WATER/RAIN WATER HAS IMPURITIES AND THESE WILL CLOG THE ELECTRODE. SOLUTION HAVE THREE CATHODES, AS GAS GENERATION FALLS SWITCH TO CLEAN ONE. SIMPLE AND COST OF CONVERSION MINIMAL.
DONT YOU THINK IT IS ODD THAT YOU CANNOT GET A STRAIGHT FORWARD ANSWER TO A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.
FROM A LITRE OF WATER, HOW MUCH "ELECTRIC" DOES IT TAKE TO SPLIT IT ALL INTO OXYGEN AND HYDROGEN. THEN HOW MANY MILES WILL A STANDARD CAR DO ON THAT HYDROGEN. TRY FINDING DEFINITIVE ANSWERS THAT MEET THE STANDARDS OF PROOF REQUIRED BY OUR POWERS THAT THINK THEY BE.
ALSO BY REMIXING THE OXYGEN AND HYDROGEN GREATER POWER CAN BE ACHIEVED. BROWNS GAS IS ONE EFFORT IN THIS DIRECTION. NOW WE BRING IN THE KURSK, SEEMINGLY ITS TORPEDOES EXPLODED BECAUSE THEY USE MY FOOT RUB AS FUEL. HYDROGEN PEROXIDE, H2O2, NOW BY ADDING EXTRA AIR TO YOUR GENERATED OXYGEN AND HYDROGEN, PERHAPS SOME THINKER CAN PRODUCE PEROXIDE TO FUEL THE ENGINE.
YOUR FANS INCLUDE A FEW GUYS WITH BRAINS PERHAPS IT WOULD HELP IF THEY USED THEM. YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WATER POWER IN SOUTH AFRICA IN THE SEVENTIES. YOU BLOODY WELL HAD IT IN THE USA. ONE OF YOUR POP STARS USED TO DO HIS OWN CONVERSIONS AND RUN AROUND IN HIS BEAT UP WATER BURNIN CHEVIES.
THINK PLEASE THINK, WHAT MATTERS THE WEIGHT, WATER IS 'FREE", NO POWER/WEIGHT PROBLEMS. ALSO GOOD STANDBY CONVERSION FOR EXISTING MOTORS UNTIL FREE ENERGY COMES ON STREAM.
NO INSULTS INTENDED OR INFERRED JUST GET THINKING/DOING CAPS ON.
IF SOMEBODY WITH A BRAIN THE SIZE OF MARS (BUT USES ONLY PEANUT SIZED PORTION) THINKS FILLING THE TRUNK OF A MERC A CLASS WITH METHANOL IS A "GOOD IDEA", I FEAR THE USA HAS EXPIRED.
I KNEW I HAD THE PLANS SOMEWHERE. CELLA IS THE GUY AND HASSELBERGER THE WEB SITE.
IT IS NOT SO MUCH THE TECHNOLOGY OR THE SCIENCE BUT THAT DUMB SIMPLE FACTS DONT ADD UP, DONT NEED TO BE A NUCLEAR SCIENTIST TO SEE THAT.
Date: 9/26/01 9:23:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, sometimes I sleuth best when I see notes like the one on your warrant12.htm page. I crave these kinds of email that say HEY get your act together, Americans! That was a great idea about splitting water! Now is the time for all of us to sleuth our best. To remove our preconceived notions. To grab hold of the Internet like it's a Rubik's Cube. Then start twisting it around to see if we notice patterns. I get like that sometimes, imagining that the whole Internet is a little orange I can grab a hold of and squeeze out some wisdom juice. Grrrr!
So today I went and raced to make some wisdom for you, and tried to steer clear of the crazies you don't want to hear from. I'm reminded of that song "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" So for our nation, should we add a stanza? like "Where have all the thinkers gone? Long time passing...etc...Gone in hiding everyone, when will they ever learn? When will they...ever learn."
Sometimes it's best to have a mind of a child. I think it's important to not stifle our children's minds. I think we should listen to ourselves at times, when we say this or that is stupid. Perhaps we should go back to chemistry and physics class, and look at the gears churn inside those kids' minds. So I went back in my mind to school.
Because the average adult doesn't remember most science experiments in school, I recommend everyone going back to school with this first link:
Introduction to Electrolysis: Hydrogen from Water
Perhaps we should agree there are things about water that big oil companies don't want us to see. And that has to be true or we wouldn't be so dependent on oil right now.
When people want formulas, read here about Fuel Cells:
more formulas & science experiments:
The Puharich Papers part 2:
It Runs On Water: transcript from Equinox TV show. Here's Arthur C Clarke et al., on this split water topic:
Carl Cella's water fuelled car:
Energy from Water for Cars:
Success in Model Experiment of Laser Engine (water or carbon as fuel):
Perhaps a visit with Gyogon Asano will help. He invented a water-powered stereo?
'Smart Plugs' idea, worth a look:
Ron McMurtry's better fuelless heater:
Rotary Mechanical Heating Device (but Ron McMurtry says his is better!):
Patent 6271614: Pulsed plasma drive electromagnetic motor generator:
http://184.108.40.206/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/ netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ft00&s1=6271614&OS=6271 614&RS=6271614
Power less AM transmitter No.2:
Howard Johnson invention:
The time to contemplate is now. Let's define wisdom once more. If there are children in Japan making drawings of Water-Powered Televions, what are we designing? How to complain better? How to tear down everyone's ideas? I encourage everyone to find links like these, even better ones!
Date: 9/27/01 3:28:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Just had to say on behalf of all of us, Sherlock Bill, you're a top bloke,
you are, keep up the work.
Date: 9/27/01 2:42:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time
KENTOSAURUS AND SHERLOCK BILL
MANY THANKS FOR YOUR POSTINGS. LOTS OF GOOD THOUGHTS STIRRED UP.
FIRST H2O LOTS OF SIMPLE TO EXTRACT HYDROGEN
NEXT METHANOL C SOMETHING H SOMETHING POLLUTION SOMETHING MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THE HYDROGEN. WHY LOOK AT IT.
OIL SAYS TO SCIENTIST WE HAVE LOTS OF METHANOL CAN YOU EXTRACT HYDROGEN FROM IT SO WE CAN POWER UP THESE NEW FUEL CELLS. HERES LOTS OF CASH FOR YOUR RESEARCH.
THIS LEADS TO LOADS OF RESEARCH INTO MATERIALS, AUTO RE-DESIGN TO TAKE SIZE AND WEIGHTS. CONDITIONS CONSUMERS TO BULKY METHANOL CONVERTERS WHILST THEY WAIT FOR THE "GAS" STATION TO SUPPLY HYDROGEN DIRECT. VERY HEAVY R AND D COSTS TO RECOVER. THUS HIGH COST, ONLY 50,000 MILE GUYS CAN RECOVER COSTS, SLOW INTRODUCTION, MAINTAIN STATUS QUO.
NOW WATER DOES HAVE A FEW PROBLEMS BUT MOST COMPETENT MECHANICS CAN OVERCOME THOSE, BUT A SIMPLE CONVERTER KEEPS ALL EXISTING ENGINES ON THE ROAD WHILST PROPER FREE ENERGY IS DEVELOPED. ONLY LOSER BIG OIL. BUT SHUCKS THEY KEEP TELLING US OIL IS TO VALUABLE TO BURN IN ENGINES, SO NOW THEY CAN STEP UP AND USE IT ALL FOR PLASTICS AND STUFF.
AGAIN BURNING EVEN WATER IS STONE AGE STUFF BUT IT GETS US GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
COULD WATER POWER HAPPEN OVERNIGHT?
Date: 9/27/01 9:11:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Interesting how things are tying back to your Nemo discussions...
I've done quite a bit of research with hydrogen power, but I put that onn hold when I ran into the Bedini technology.
I have all the specifics for hydrogen power. One very interesting thing that I discovered (but have NOT proven) is that if you crudely and inefficiently split a given amount of water, you'll get approximately the same amount of energy as the equivalent amount of gasoline. No catalyst, no carbon fibers, no chemicals. This is relative, of course, and I'm talking about powering a gasoline engine with hydrogen gas.
In other words, yes, you can fill a car's gasoline tank with water, insert an electrolysis circuit into the fuel line, and run the car on the hydrogen for almost the same distance as the gasoline. You'll need extra batteries in the car to run the electrolyzer, and you'll have to charge the batteries occasionally, but it will work. Bear in mind that there are many details involved here, and any mistakes will lead to a fire, or worse. I have not done this myself, except on paper.
It should be emphasized that this is EXTREMELY dangerous for two reasons. One, hydrogen is very flammable, invisible, and odorless, a deadly combination; and two, something BAD tends to happen to people involved with this type of research. You know what I mean.
Keeping these things in mind, the current global situation seems a bit clearer, does it not?