||Planet X, Nibiru, etc.
||12/31/01 7:59:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
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I think you're doing a fine job of work. I always
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coming here. It's a lot of work. I couldn't afford more than
one site, so I'd pick yours. (You'll have to do it sooner or later
you know :<)
May the Universe protect you and yours.
I read Mother Shipton's stuff years ago - and always thought
she spoke the plainest. I spent some time going through and working
out what it all meant. It was her - I think, that led to my finding
out about X. To put puzzle pieces together... what the Dogon knew...
Sumeria, Sitchin, even Velikovsky. Watching recent events and weather
- and so on.
Oceans getting warmer from 'Greenhouse Effect'?
How can the atmosphere warm up the oceans so thoroughly... so quickly?
Seems like the other way around, to me. Magnetic field collapsing.
Solar system more complicated than pointy-heads think? Binary
system! I hear tell binary systems more common than not, out
This means the passage affects all the known planets
- and the Sun. Not a new theory - I know. Comes down to
magnetic and gravitational aberrations - never before recorded (in our short
memory). That's exactly what we're seeing right now. Naturally,
when you think about it, It couldn't be only affecting JUST the
Earth - and not anything else, since it's still a long way out
from everything in the previously known solar system. It'd affect
everything in the neighborhood.
Hmmm, but... this is a perfectly natural occurrence then.
It's just novel to us because we live such short, forgetful lives.
In the history of the world, it must have been around thousands of
times. Ahah! But the world's still here - right? Diversity
is fine, if we don't think about our own depradations. As a planet,
Earth was fine before we messed around with it.
I take the Zeta communication with a grain of salt.
'They' seem to be pushing the 'fear' button just a little too enthusiastically
for my liking. This is 'channelled' stuff... I don't care what name's
applied... all same. Communications are possible this way,
but must go through the personality of the recipient. Lots of things
get twisted in the metamorphosis. Such things come as 'feelings'
- that must then be vocalised. It's the word of one person only.
Nobody's infallible... not even little enigmatic grey dudes. Besides,
there's some stuff 'they' say, which, if it happened all over - would have
left the Earth a barren wasteland unable to bring forth life in the first
place. This chunk of rock's been back round thousands of times, as
Okay, I'm getting to a point. The point is gravity.
Don't know what it is - but know what it does. Think about it.
When this thing comes roaring through like a Bondi tram, one fine, time-frozen
morning.... it's not going to grab the Earth and swing it round like one
would grab a bowl of water... with the water spilling, because of it's fluid
This thing is going to exert gravitational force, which
negates inertia in that sense.. Gravity will pull on all the molecules
and atoms and little bits equally. Well, more or less.
It doesn't pull the continents and not the oceans... it pulls
everything. For instance, the moon causes tides in the oceans,
but it also causes tides in the crust itself - and most likely - right down
to the 'core'.
As X comes in - and passes us, we turn toward
it as the Sun's gravity is momentarily over-ridden by it's proximity of passing
- and it's density. But everything turns. Then everything realigns
with the Sun... until X comes back on its outward swing - and does it
all over again.
If the oceans are supposed to be slopping about like water
in a bucket - when all this happens, then the moon would produce world-wide
tsunamis, everytime it went round. But it doesn't. That tells
me something about gravitational exchanges between very large objects, including
Nibiru and its sister spheres.
There will be a moon affect, but it will be much greater.
Gravity has been likened to a 'well', but it's more like a whirling funnel
(Gabriel's Horn). There's a centre to it... an eye, so X will
distort the part of the Earth facing it, towards itself, producing the mother
of all tides, but not as a result of 'slopping about'. The Earth itself
will tend to distort... like a ball photographed through a bad
lens. It will try to form a teardrop shape, with the pointy bit toward
Nibiru (according to their polar attractions). The rising and
falling of the water will be controlled by the passing planet's 'gravity
whirlpool'. Gravitationally - not physically.
The 'whirlpool's' influence is vast, but there's a
point at which one can always determine that they've entered one. That's
the point where things really speed up, just like a real whirlpool
does. In this case, the edge is that point in the passing, where
X's gravity field begins to physically wrest us away from the Sun,
by virtue of the interracting energy fields. The centre is where the
Earth stands momentarily still, at some zenith of brief equilibrium, before
the decay side of the (first) passing.
Two distinct things. 1: A big tide comes in... the
waters rise, perhaps a long way, but there're no thousand foot high tsunamis
raging about all over the place. 2: A big tide goes out.
Depending on where you are in the world at the time, it
could be either of those two, because the tide will drop in all those areas
near the bottom of the aformentioned teardrop (those facing away from
X). This probably takes place over about three days. Even before
the second passing - of the outward swing, there will be massive
upheavals between the Sun and X, as they reach the zenith of their
interraction. Expect massive flares, as they re-energise each other
in their passing. Should be spectacular, if we get to see it.
I can imagine that this will make the return of X, on it's outward swing,
a much more horrendous event than the first passing..
Two effects of two events... of one big ongoing event.
Yeah, but... when the tide either rises or falls on a beach
near you - and it doesn't want to stop, there will also be a tide rising
or falling in the crust beneath you... right down to our own planet's
centre of gravity. So as the tide moves, the volcanoes let off steam
and fire in it's wake. And the ground squirms like tar on a hot
day, as earthquakes vent their stresses too. And storms will rage across
the waters as they move. And so on.
A ripple effect. Where have we heard that novel idea
The whole event will be controlled, like a deep inbreath
on a cosmic scale, then the equally deep outbreath.
Man! Evolution could be galvanised by something like
that! It won't be like dropping eggs.
Because of all this possibly boring conjecture, I think
the changes will be everywhere, but more or less constrained by the immediate
geography and and location - in ways that will be less disastrous than we
might think. But I'm speaking in racial terms, rather than social
I don't think the NWO (which by the way, is just the O(old)WO
trying to hang on to things past their use by date) - will be in business
after the event... although they grow crazy trying to ensure they do.
Expect some really lunatic stuff to come. Could be funny, if you look
at it in a certain way.
I commend the work done on Mother Shipton's talk of the
passing. At the risk of being a bore, I've reproduced it here with
my own added comments in blue. What I think she means. Hope I'm
not sticking my beak in where it's not wanted... apologies if so.
For storms will rage and oceans roar << Increasingly weird
weather. (Mother of all
When Gabriel stands on sea and shore << "Gabriel" 7th Atlantic
hurricane; 9/11/2001. (Nibiru's gravity whirlpool
pulling at the planet)
And as he blows his wondrous horn << Hurricanes look like a horn's
funnel from above Old worlds die and new be born. << As in New World
Order? (Yep, as in civilisations and the
death of 'Old World
A fiery Dragon will cross the sky << Planet X approaching from
behind/below the sun? (Nibiru is reputed to have
about seven major moons and much debris fanning out into it's gravitational
wake. Looks like wings and is reddish, hence dragon, hairy star, winged
star descriptions from long ago)
Six times before this earth shall die << Visible only 6 days
prior to passover Mankind will tremble and frightened be For the
sixth heralds in this prophecy. (This
civilisation. "Six times" could refer to the four stages of the inbound
the null points included as the fifth and sixth distinct times that humanity
will "tremble and frightened be". Not necessarily six days, I
For seven days and seven nights
Man will watch this awesome
sight. (Maybe it does refer to the time,
or maybe this is a coincidence, but she's quite specific
The tides will rise beyond their ken << interplanetary tidal
forces (Mother of all
To bite away the shores and then
The mountains will begin to roar << sudden tectonic plate
subduction (Yes, as the 'gravity ripple'
massages the underlying layers)
And earthquakes split the plain to
And flooding waters, rushing in << inertial tidal forces from
stopped rotation (Please see above, stuff
about gravity and inertia... but aye, the water will come rushing in from
such a ridiculously high tide)
Will flood the lands with such a din
(Had a dream about this, all in cold greys.
Spooky. It was roaring like voices of some sort - lots of
That mankind cowers in muddy fen << Fen = mud bog. Being a "stick
(Most of humanity reduced to
in the mud" a good way to survive.
And snarls about his fellow men.
He bares his teeth and fights and
And secrets food in secret
hills (Could refer to OWO diggings and
doings under large pieces of rock)
And ugly in his fear, he lies (This
fits them as well. And I think 'lies' is meant as 'untruths', which
connects it to next bit)
To kill marauders, thieves and
spies. (They tell lies to justify their
Man flees in terror from the floods
And kills, and rapes and lies in blood
And spilling blood by mankind's hands
Will stain and bitter many lands. (So this
fits into what is being done in the War on - you know
And when the Dragon's tail is gone, << Planet X's debris field (red
dust and meteorite hail) (And its, possibly
inhabited - major moons. This is the first passing, so more
thought needs to be given to the 'six times frightened '
Man forgets, and smiles, and carries on
(Duhhhhhh........ "Okay folks, it's all over
now, time to get your shots")
To apply himself -- too late, too late
(Those who now know that Nibiru will be making a
return performance, but didn't do anything about it before it was certainly
there, will frantically try to prepare, but it will be too late... not enough
time - and devastation everywhere. I'm hoping this line applies to
For mankind has earned deserved fate. (Well,
SOMEBODY's earned it for us)
His masked smile -- his false grandeur
Will serve the Gods their anger stir.
And they will send the Dragon back << 12th planet's return outbound
passage? (c. 2011-12)
To light the sky -- his tail will crack
(Could mean the debris trail comes much closer
to Earth, appearing to part across the sky - and lighting it up a dull
Upon the earth and rend the earth
(Then, parts of the debris trail crash and rend
the Earth with fragments?)
And man shall flee, King, Lord, and
serf. (This is the point where
civilisation/OWO actually collapses in on itself)
But slowly they are routed out
(They don't give up easily)
To seek diminishing water spout
("Water, water everywhere - and not a drop
And men will die of thirst before
The oceans rise to mount the
shore. (So, it only takes that long
for X to come back on the outward swing)
And lands will crack and rend anew
(Then it all happens over again, the second time)
You think it strange. It will come true.
And in some far off distant land
Some men -- oh such a tiny band (Survivors
who made the right preparations - and presumably, quite lucky as
Will have to leave their solid
mount (Important clue about getting to
high ground here)
And span the earth, those few to
count, (Some survivors will be scattered
all over the globe)
Who survives this (unreadable) and then
Begin the human race again.
But not on land already there
But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare (Now
- wait a minute. The old land will have to provide sustenence for a
time, because the sea-bed will be barren for a long time. [Bloody
rainforests don't pop up on drained coral reefs overnight you
know] But if she's still right despite that, then we would
have to have some sort of technological intervention from - (ahem)...
Not every soul on Earth will die
As the Dragon's tail goes sweeping by.
(Even though it will seem so at the
Not every land on earth will sink
(Refer to above mention of drained
But these will wallow in stench and stink
Of rotting bodies of beast and man
Of vegetation crisped on land. (Quite
understandable - really. So the survivors MUST go to the
But the land that rises from the sea
Will be dry and clean and soft and free
Of mankind's dirt and therefore be
The source of man's new dynasty. (Free of
the pollution and pestilence - no diseases)
And those that live will ever fear
The Dragons tail for many year (Aye.
How could one forget?)
But time erases memory << "If all things must pass, even a pyramid
won't last." - Allan Parsons (Hence our
abysmal ignorance of this issue, outside a few select
You think it strange. But it will be. (Most
will wait 'til it hangs in
the sky - before
And before the race is built anew (In fact
- without the following, perhaps the race has little chance of a future,
other than to live in a very spacious and austere stone
A silver serpent comes to
view (Craft: metallic, perhaps long and
And spew out men of like
unknown (Aliens, but not so different
from us, that they can't be called 'men')
To mingle with the earth now grown
Cold from its heat and these men can
Enlighten the minds of future man. (This
is why they wait and observe now)
To intermingle and show them how
To live and love and thus endow
The children with the second sight.
(This refers to the next evolutionary stage, on the
mental scale. The getting of 'knowingness'. Like telepathy, but
not as we think it might be. The OWO will never rise again, because
the children will learn how to use their 'second sight' to detect fallacy
and deceit. They will 'know' the truth.
A natural thing so that they might
(The church has been afraid of this for a long
time. The OWO has been too. But it's perfectly natural - and
Grow graceful, humble and when they do
The Golden Age will start anew. (Self
Hope this is of use. Sorry it's so long, but you never know.