"So where is the plane?" - Crash flap follow up
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My column last week, "So where is the plane?"
sparked an unbelievable storm of response. I am
physically unable to respond to the thousands of
e-mails individually, but hopefully this column will
cover most of the bases.
Go here for full story:
Re: So where is the plane? -
Subject: Flight 77 -
From: Ed Toner firstname.lastname@example.org
Ret TWA Feb. after 30 years.
ATP B-707, 720, 727, 747, 757, 767 & L-1011.
I really don't have all the answers to this Flt. 77 thing, but based on
I have seen on several web sites of conspiratol nature, I believe in
that the question of the aircraft not hitting the Pentagon is
The lack of aircraft wreckage - How long AFTER the crash/explosion
these photo's taken? Are there no photo's taken immediately after the
Are there no photo's of the wreckage being carted away? Were there no
remains to be found, particularly of PAZ seated in the rear of the
On the lack of a photo of a B-767 A/C just before the strike - Were there
eye-witness's who saw this stupendous event/explosion? I would think
there were many. How about sky-cams, security cameras, guards,
etc.? Have none come foreward?
Personally, I am surprised by the amount of damage caused by this
Mostly aluminum, crashing into reinforced concrete devestated the area
it hit. How, I wonder. I am not a structural engineer however, and
this IS possible. Jet fuel is not particularly volatile, and I would
expect an explosion, yet there appears that there was one. We should
looking for an answer to this.
I am not at all against conspiracy theories and investigations. In fact I
very much interested in these things. For instance, I am quite
that TWA 800 was not blown up by her own fuel tank. I took a
interest in this one because it is the very A/C that I flew in Sept.
for my B-747 ATP Rating . Many believe it was a missle, but I suspect that
bomb was more likely. The nose section seperated from the rest of
fuselage at the same frame that PAA did over Lockerbie.
I'll add more if you like, after you examine my comments here, and
Ed Toner - email@example.com - 3/19/02
ATP B-707, 720, 727, 747, 757, 767 & L-1011.
Ret TWA Feb. 1987 after 30
"Dick Eastman" - firstname.lastname@example.org - wrote:
Look again at
Bosankoe has cropped this shot to the important piece. [I will mail it
anyone who asks for the Bosankoe enlargement in the subject section).
is the entry point of the impact. Notice the small yellow pillar with the
wooden posts. This pillar gives you a scale for the size of the fire
and therefore the size of the plane/missile that hit the Pentagon. At
maximum this hole is no more than 3m (10ft), and that's being generous.
glow of the fire just show the intensity of heat inside. The only mercy
this is the speed at which the personnel inside would have died and
would have been knocked unconcious by the blast.
> Patrick: The plane hit the ground first, then slid into the building.
> the landing wheels were not down and locked, the full height of the
> would extend upwards into the second floor of the building, which is
[How absurd. If the bottom half of the plane flew through the ground
and the top have plowed through the floor of the second story then we
have had a sheared mess -- the top portion would not have proceded
than a few yards and the bottom would have gone much further. But if
plane did have to travel horizontally through and across the floor then
"mountain side" wreckage would be the expected result. But it is not
It did not happen. What really happened is that a fighter jet fired
missile ahead of its own impact.
First observe from the security video released by the Defense
how the attacking jet approached horizontally at first-floor level.
also that this is a fighter jet and that it is firing a missile that
Now look at these scenes taken from the street straight across the lawn
How did the plane get past these street lamp
Boeing 757 could not have passed between these lamposts as the Defense
Department security video shows that the attacking plane, flying in
horizontally at first-floor level obviously
> Question No 3
> The photograph above shows the lawn in front of the damaged
> You'll remember that the aircraft only hit the ground floor of
> Pentagon's first ring. Can you find debris of a Boeing 757-200 in
> Paul: : Yet another leading question ("you'll remember..."), but
> looking in the wrong place anyway. At 250 mph, the plane did not stop
> the outside of the building. Security camera photos and eyewitness
> from many credible people, including AP reporter Dave Winslow, agree
> the plane completely disappeared into the building. If you've seen
> of airline crashes after the fire is out, they often look more
> landfill sites than anything recognizable as having been an
There is only one security camera photo and that is what I present
there is talk of a security video taken from a nearby gas station,
is reported to have been taken by the FBI and not released. Yet Paul
with the implication that he is taking this data into account, isn't he?
(Go look above and see that he does.) This means that the FBI has given
what it has not given the news media. Or else, he is blowing smoke
talking beyond what he has really investigated. This discredits this
right here for me. --DE]
> But since the question more literally asks for a photo showing
> debris on the lawn, here's one. Here's another.
Those are not recognizable as pieces of a Boeing 757.
"Dick Eastman" -
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