Pros and cons Earth Changes Date: 4/15/99 10:53:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time There are a number of schools of thought based on "residing" evidences as to what may or may NOT happen to the Earth in the near to distant future insofar as "climactic" conditions are concerned. They are as follows: 1. The Cooling theory is based on two possibilities: One extant and one "cyclic" phenomenon NOW being watched by the Hubble Telescope. Namely the "cloud of supposed "cosmic" clouds coming "from" the center of our Galaxy ...But are they REALLY "coming"...or are we, in a cyclic "trip" around the Galaxy about every 23 million years or so, again encountering these "clouds"...or Ion Clouds...or "photon" belts that promises to FREEZE the Earth like a minute Galactic "Popsickle". !!Sheldon Nidle has also expounded on this in his Book: "YOU ARE BECOMING A GALACTIC CITIZEN". This ook is about the "Photon Belt" and conditions that may become extant on Earth and the rst of our Solar sytem. This also was told to a Science Class that I attended in 1945 by a teacher that I now know was an Alien as his physical characteristics fitted the classification to a "T". He was forever telling the class about Celestial Phenomenon that were NOT in any books of the time.( He also taught "sports") 2. The other half of the cooling theory (not including the "Three days darkness" supposedly coming in the near future that has TWO possibilities in itself) Is the NEW "radiation curve" exant with our NEW SUN. It used to be fairly level with an associative Warmth fromm Infra RED thru green, then an HIGH blip at Blue and a "roll-off" into the ultraviolet regions. The "beat frequency between the lower RED and the "high" upper blue creates the "end" of the rainbow in Violet and dimished into the UV region being put out by the SUN as the"Burning" rays associated with the Atomic Fire that makes up any SUN. The "equal exchange" between Hydrogen and Helium in a SUN in a supposed never-ending "balance of both untill ALL the Hydrogen is spent...then becomes an Helium star such as ours did in 1991 is a fact of the life of any SUN. It took 30 plus years for this to happen to OUR SUN!! (The infamous "unprecedented Warming period often talked about in numerous articles form Readers Digest to the Scientific expoundings of various Physicists.) The Ullyses Satellite in early Nov, 1997 proved the theories and observations of SKY LAB (sent up specifically for this event) since our SUN went "half-life" on Jan 12th 1962. Our SUN was "ameliorated sometime in the middle of the same Month by two "Cosmic" Bombs the size of Venus being sequentially hurled into our SUN by a Humongous" space craft (The pix of this sequence was taken by SOHO) and causing a "CHAIN" reaction to break the Helium back down into the Hydrogen family of seven steps. The NEW "Light frequency" Curve begins to rise asymtotically at Green and peaks at Blue...BUT, instead of rolling back off to the UV cyclesabove the violet range has stayed at the Peak and doesn't roll off till well past the "X-ray" region above "high fequency" UV. This accounts for heavy Sun Burns which I treat twice yearly when "SUN-worshipers" bare it all and get severly burned in less than two hours. I have developed an ointment that quickly dispels such burns and GIVE a large bottle to the main First AId station and I keep another in the further reaches of the campground in the "Vendors" section to catch those that are in too much PAIN to make it to the Main Station. 3. Theory three: The HOT one!!! If the SUN continues to throw "X" class flares...then the Earth will look like the PIX that has come back through time from 2304. "Parched", cratered and pitted...and unable to grow crops except in "selected" areas. Also a modicum of Radio Activity still remaining from the two Idiot WARS fought in the early 2000+ time period is to blame for the "selective" crop areas as well. My theory about people coming "BACK" in time is to "ESCAPE" the conditions extant at that time. A group is known to be in Greece at this time. OK...Something to "CHEW" on with your "cranial" fangs and teeth. Have FUN. ANON ANON wrote: > > ANON3...it is the "Prime directive" of NON INTERFERRENCE that > prevents this from happening. They DID however LIVE amoung us by the > millions since 1937, only to leave between Feb of 1995 and Dec 0f 1996. > They did MUCH good by secretly instilling "Spirituallity" into all of > those who were "rady" to be leaders in that sense. You included. > > It took two world Wars and two more major conflicts and dozens of > revolutuions to show that WE are NOT worth the trouble...they had better > things to do with their time such as: Save us from the Main Draconian > Group...where ALL of us would have become FOOD...and are about to > undertake another such mission in about another 7 or 8 months...This one > will be FAR more dificult than the previous short but costly encounter > in Sept of 1997. > > When they left, the economy went shazbot...and the world LOST the > universal connection to LOVE for the most part. They literally put us on > our OWN too see if they gifts they DID bestow took root and would bear > fruit. The ruling CLASS obviously didn't benefit...as always. Things > HAVE gone shazbot HERE once again. > > ANON3...I will be OUT of pocket till Monday. Love and all the other > goodies attached to it...Ob1 > ANON2 wrote: > > > > All this could be solved if free-energy could > > be allowed to be brought to market - seems those > > at the top would rather kill the planet than lose their > > control over it, > > > > BTW - are you familiar with the PAA TAL ??? > > > > >ANON3...this bunch of HOGWASH is assuming that the SUN is Normal and that > > >it will "Cycle" again as well as NOT noting that there was "cometary" > > >input around 9500 BC...The Gov't knows DAMN well what IS in > > >store...that's why they have programs Called Operation Deep Freeze/Snow > > >Bird which have sent tons of Oxygen Producing LAKE MOSS to MARS in > > >hopes of having it ready for them in time. In reading it carefully; NOTE > > >the many "conflicting" dialogues!! > > > > > >Unfortunatley, the people on MARS declared "autonomy" and "as well > > >joined the Galactic Federation in about 1991 to 1992 when the SUN became > > >an Helium STAR!! The recent phenomenon of the Inter-Galactic group > > >giving us an additional 1045 years to "GET OUR ACT TOGETHER" is a moot > > >point as already the 7000 plus Concentration Camps (Similar to Dachau) > > >are already gearing up for "occupation" within he next three years. The > > >NEW War is just a "prelude"!!! As IF the massive CUTS in population > > >would use LESS oxygen compared to their Gas consuming heaters, Big > > >Limmos, Trucks, and aircraft!!! Or the Oxygen neede to fire all the many > > >FURNACES they have already built for us at the Train Be-heading" sites > > >along side the concentration camps. > > > > > >As for "cutting" the Green house effects, THAT MUST be done or we all > > >will suffocate by 2030 plus or minus...We MUST get RID of ALL internal > > >combustion and go to either Electric or Anti-Gra. The B2 already > > >switches to the latter when reaching altitude. > > > > > >If the people don't act soon..it WILL be too late...what will it take to > > >edjumakate all the dummies" in the U.S. that could stll AIM a GUN??? > > > > > >Mark my words...as I've SEEN the future!!! ANON > > > > > >ANON3 wrote: > > >> > > >> >From today's (Canada) National Post: > > >> > > >> "Hot enough for you?" > > >> > > >> Dr. Tim Patterson and Tom Harris > > >> National Post > > >> > > >> David Suzuki's new film, > > >> Turning Down the Heat, was aired on > > >> CBC-TV last night. This > > >> government-sponsored video explains how > > >> alternative, non-fossil fuel > > >> technologies can provide solutions to > > >> what Dr. Suzuki calls "the greatest > > >> threat to humanity in the modern > > >> era" -- the climate crisis. > > >> > > >> Despite Dr. Suzuki's promise that > > >> "this [film] will leave you inspired > > >> and optimistic about a cleaner, > > >> healthier future," he has done little > > >> more than scare Canadians unnecessarily. > > >> Telling us the build-up of > > >> greenhouse gases as caused by > > >> our burning of fossil fuels will result > > >> in an environmental catastrophe > > >> is hardly responsible citizenry when > > >> so much evidence exists to the > > >> contrary. > > >> > > >> Suzuki seems to be relying far > > >> too much on predictions made by > > >> global warming theorists who > > >> work with computer models of the > > >> future but use little actual > > >> data. With the support of biologists, > > >> who generally lack a proper understanding > > >> of long-term climate dynamics, > > >> environmental groups, mass media and > > >> government have treated these theoretical > > >> scenarios as credible indicators of future > > >> environmental change. > > >> > > >> Yet, predicting the future of Earth's > > >> climate by computer models alone is > > >> risky. Because the earliest simulations > > >> of climate change did not take many > > >> variables into consideration -- they > > >> did not even consider the influence of > > >> ocean circulation -- temperature changes > > >> as great as eight degrees were > > >> forecast over the next century. > > >> > > >> As more variables were incorporated > > >> into the models, the amount of > > >> predicted change has decreased. > > >> However, even today's models > > >> cannot recreate past known > > >> climatic conditions or predict the > > >> present without fudging the > > >> numbers. Dr. Wallace Broecker, a > > >> renowned Columbia University > > >> oceanographer/climatologist, > > >> believes more than one million > > >> variables influence climate change. > > >> Although not all are required > > >> to reasonably model climate, this > > >> underlines why computer simulations > > >> are not very accurate. Are we, > > >> as a society, to base major > > >> policy decisions on such faulty > > >> models? > > >> > > >> By contrast, Earth scientists > > >> rely more on empirical data recorded in > > >> thousands of peer-reviewed > > >> scientific papers. One of the best tools > > >> we have to predict the future > > >> is the well-documented geologic > > >> record of both gradual and > > >> rapid climate changes in the past. These > > >> records reveal that, for more > > >> than 90% of Earth's history, conditions > > >> were much warmer than today. > > >> Two million years ago forests > > >> extended nearly to the North > > >> Pole. As recently as 100,000 years > > >> ago, temperatures were high > > >> enough that hippopotami and other > > >> animals now found only in > > >> Africa, made their homes in northern > > >> Europe. > > >> > > >> Over the past 1.6 million years, > > >> however, it has generally been much > > >> cooler than this, with periodic > > >> rapid fluctuations from cooler to > > >> warmer intervals known as > > >> interglaciations. The causes of these > > >> dramatic climate variations > > >> include continental drift, changes in > > >> ocean/atmospheric circulation, > > >> natural wobbles in the Earth's orbit, > > >> and variations in solar energy. > > >> > > >> Despite a 0.6-degree warming > > >> that has occurred over the past > > >> century (most of which was in > > >> the early 1900s before worldwide > > >> industrialization and the > > >> period of greatest carbon dioxide buildup), > > >> overall, temperatures have > > >> dropped about three degrees in the past > > >> 5,000 years. Whether short-term > > >> global warming is occurring or not > > >> (the data are not clear), > > >> another ice age will definitely begin within > > >> the next few thousand years. > > >> While this is no excuse for continuing > > >> to foul our own nest, a gradual > > >> greenhouse gas buildup may be a > > >> blessing, something that could > > >> delay the onset of the next glacial > > >> period, or at least reduce its > > >> severity. > > >> > > >> This is an isANON3 environmental > > >> groups need to be more honest about. > > >> Dr. Suzuki confidently asserts > > >> that "An increased rate of global > > >> warming would have serious > > >> negative impacts on the health and > > >> welfare of humans . . ." Perhaps, > > >> but the historical record certainly > > >> does not indicate this. The demise > > >> of Greenland's Viking colonies > > >> provides an instructive example. > > >> > > >> When Erik the Red was exiled > > >> from Iceland for murder in 980 AD, > > >> he was fortunate that his > > >> banishment coincided with an unusually > > >> warm climatic period. Open > > >> sea-lanes allowed him to make his way > > >> to a reasonably hospitable > > >> land. Christening the island "Greenland" > > >> was not merely a gimmick to > > >> attract Norse settlers. The pioneers > > >> who followed Erik had a reasonable > > >> prospect of prosperity in this > > >> new world. They raised sheep > > >> and cattle brought with them from > > >> Iceland and even grew grain. > > >> > > >> About 1350, however, the weather > > >> began to turn bad (this is where > > >> the "warmest in 600 years" headlines > > >> came from this summer). > > >> Crops failed and the settlers > > >> became increasingly dependent on > > >> supplies shipped in from > > >> Europe. As the climate continued to cool, > > >> sea ice started to restrict shipping. > > >> By the 15th century, the colonists > > >> were cut off from the outside > > >> world. > > >> > > >> Recent archaeological evidence > > >> shows a pathetic end to the Vikings' > > >> most westerly outpost. With the > > >> ground frozen throughout most, and > > >> finally all, of the year, > > >> famine-weakened Norsemen eventually could > > >> not even properly bury their > > >> own dead. The "Little Ice Age" had > > >> begun and the Greenland > > >> settlements were wiped out as effectively > > >> as the Viking themselves had > > >> reduced many a European coastal > > >> town to ashes. > > >> > > >> With a 1.5-degree drop in > > >> average temperature over the next > > >> hundred years, Iceland and > > >> Eastern Europe were nearly > > >> depopulated and famines > > >> periodically ravaged much of Western > > >> Europe. Ice caps began to > > >> develop in the Arctic, and glaciers > > >> advanced throughout the Alps. > > >> > > >> Little Ice Age cooling was > > >> global in extent, with evidence also found > > >> in western North America from > > >> Alaska into the continental U.S., > > >> China, the Andes Mountains, New > > >> Zealand, and even in equatorial > > >> Kenya. > > >> > > >> Wildly erratic and frigid > > >> conditions continued until the mid-19th > > >> century, when skating parties > > >> on the Thames River in England finally > > >> had to be abandoned as conditions > > >> gradually warmed up to those of > > >> the mid-1300s. Nonetheless, the > > >> 10th century, when Eric the Red > > >> settled Greenland, was still > > >> one degree warmer than the 20th > > >> century. This is worth remembering > > >> when reading alarmist "warmest > > >> in 600 years" headlines. > > >> > > >> While the Little Ice Age was > > >> undoubtedly harsh, it may prove to be > > >> minor compared with what may be > > >> in store for us if our climate > > >> follows past trends, as expected. > > >> In the past 1.6 million years, there > > >> have been more than 30 glacial > > >> advances and retreats. It was only > > >> 10 millennia ago -- when humans > > >> were fashioning flint spearheads to > > >> hunt the last woolly bison and > > >> carving flint sickles to work our first > > >> farms -- that ice sheets, some > > >> up to a mile thick, finally retreated > > >> from Europe and North America. > > >> > > >> We have to wonder whether the > > >> global warming concerns of the > > >> past two decades have been > > >> overblown. Is the warming since the > > >> late 19th century due to > > >> natural oscillations, well recorded > > >> throughout geologic history, or > > >> is it due to industrialization? Since > > >> current conditions are only > > >> slightly warmer than those at the end of > > >> the last major ice age, were we > > >> saved from glacial devastation by > > >> industrialization? > > >> > > >> No one knows the answers to these > > >> questions. What we do know is that > > >> the next glaciation, due within a > > >> few thousand years, is part of > > >> a natural climate cycle that will > > >> continue for at least several million > > >> years. The nature of our planet's > > >> orbital dynamics and position of > > >> the continents as they influence > > >> ocean circulation are the main > > >> controls, not human activities. > > >> > > >> Based on the impact of the > > >> 1350-1880 Little Ice Age, it is apparent > > >> that humankind, and particularly > > >> Canadians, benefit much more from > > >> warmer climate than cooler. > > >> Viewers of Turning Down the Heat > > >> need to remember this while > > >> being told about the urgent need to > > >> face the growing threat to the > > >> environment, climate stability and > > >> human health posed by increased > > >> global warming." (as quoted from > > >> Dr. Suzuki's Web page). Such > > >> statements can only be classified as > > >> sensationalism until we know > > >> much more than we currently do about > > >> our planet's atmosphere. > > >> > > >> To move full speed ahead with > > >> draconian cuts in greenhouse gas > > >> emissions, as advocated by Dr. > > >> Suzuki and other environmentalists, > > >> would be a recipe for economic > > >> disaster for all Canadians. > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >> > > >> Tim Patterson is Associate Professor of > > >> Earth Sciences at Carleton University in > > >> Ottawa. Tom Harris is an Ottawa-based > > >> freelance writer. > > >>