From:  "hermitgarden"
Date:  Tue Jan 8, 2002  5:47 pm
Subject:  Prince Turki, chief of Saudi intelligence one of bin Laden's mentors

Prince Turki, chief of Saudi intelligence one of bin Laden's mentors
Recently Eric S. Margolis, author of War at the Top of the World : The
Struggle for Afghanistan, Kashmir and Tibet told a television news 
interviewer that
Osama Bin Laden Had vetoed UNOCAL's pipeline offer thru Afghanistan in 
favor of
(Bridas) an Argentine firm. "Bridas told the Taliban it had no need 
for funding outside the region. Backing up their claim, they entered 
into a partnership with the Saudi firm Ningarcho. Ningarcho had 
connections to Prince Turki, chief of Saudi intelligence and one of 
Osama bin Laden's mentors. Unocal's Saudi partner, Delta Oil, was 
connected to Crown Prince Abdullah. Thus, Ahmed Rashid observes, "the 
competition between Unocal and Bridas also reflected competition 
the Saudi Royal family. ***During 1997 Bridas and Unocal both expanded
their courtship of the Taliban. Taliban delegations traveled to 
Buenos Aires where they were treated as royalty. Another delegation 
traveled to the U.S. to meet with Unocal and government
officials, and to lobby for diplomatic recognition. Bridas was 
painstakingly negotiating a contract with various Afghani factions 
.*** Prince Turki al-Faisal, then head of Saudi intelligence, arranged
for bin Laden's mother to visit him in 1998. A second visit was 
reportedly arranged with the knowledge of the Saudi royal family, in 
early 2000. According to Saudi dissident Saad Al-Fagih, the second
trip was to try to discourage bin Laden from taking action against the 
royal family.The BBC television program, Newsnight, reported on 
November 6, 2001 that the Bush administration may have interfered with 
an FBI investigation of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, in Falls 
Virginia. Abdullah bin Laden is president and treasurer of WAMY. Omar 
bin Laden, another brother, also lives in Falls Church. WAMY operates 
out of the basement of a building at 5613 Leesburg Pike. A few blocks 
away is 5913 Leesburg Pike, where four of the hijackers that attacked 
New York and Washington are listed as having lived. Joe Trento, 
identified in the broadcast as a "national security expert" said, "The 
FBI wanted to investigate these guys. This is not something that they
didn't want to do - they wanted to, they weren't permitted to." BBC 
reporter Gregory Palast: "I received a phone call from a high-placed 
member of a US intelligence agency. He tells me that while there's 
always been constraints on investigating Saudis, under George Bush 
it's gotten much worse. After the elections, the agencies were told to 
'back off' investigating the Bin Ladens and Saudi royals, and that 
angered agents. I'm told that since September 11th the policy has been 
reversed. FBI headquarters told us they could not comment on our 
findings. A spokesman said: 'There are lots of things that only the 
intelligence community knows and that no-one else ought to know.' 
Familiar Faces Many high-level Republicans are connected to or 
participate in Saudi business interests. Nicholas Brady, Secretary of 
Treasury under Bush I, and Edith E. Holiday, a Bush Sr. assistant, 
both serve on the board of Amerada Hess, an American oil company 
currently undertaking a joint venture with several Saudi investors to 
develop oil resources in Azerbaijan. Vice President Dick Cheney's 
former company Halliburton was awarded was awarded a $140 million 
contract by Saudi state-owned firm Aramco last month to develop an oil 
field in Saudi Arabia. A Halliburton subsidiary was hired, along with 
two Japanese companies, to build a $40 million ethylene plant. We've 
reported elsewhere on the Bush connection to the Carlyle Group, a 
merchant bank specializing in defense-related businesses. In addition 
to Bush Sr. currently, and Bush Jr. previously, prominent Republicans 
now at the Carlyle group include: Frank C. Carlucci, secretary of 
defense and national security adviser in the Reagan administration, 
former deputy director of the CIA, now chairman of the Carlyle group. 
Former Secretary of State James A. Baker III The Carlyle Group held a 
controlling interest in defense contractor B.D.M. until 1998 when it 
sold its stake to TRW. Through its subsidiaries B.D.M. holds lucrative 
contracts to train and manage the Saudi National Guard. Philip A. 
Odeen, president of B.D.M. served in the defense department of the 
Nixon administration. TRW board members include former CIA director 
Robert M. Gates, and Michael H. Armacost, undersecretary of state in 
the Reagan administration and ambassador to Japan during Bush I. The 
Carlyle group was a paid adviser during the development of the Saudi 
"Economic Offset Program." The program is effectively a legalized 
kickback scheme that requires U.S. arms manufacturers doing business 
with Saudi Arabia to return some of their revenue through contracts 
with Saudi businesses, some controlled by the royal family. A Carlyle 
spokesman told the Boston Herald recently that the program had been 
discontinued, although it is not clear when. "
"Splits in the Saudi royal family have led to support by different 
Saudi princes for each of the two competing multi-billion dollar 
proposals to build a gas pipeline across Afghanistan. As
narrated below, Prince Turki was allied with the Argentine company 
Bridas, while Prince Abdullah was close to the Saudi company Delta 
Oil, part of the US-backed consortium headed up by Unocal.*** Bridas, 
had been the first to secure local approval for a pipeline through 
Afghanistan: first in March 1995 from Turkmenistan President Niyazov 
and Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, and then in February 1996 
with Burhanuddin Rabbani, still recognized as the Afghan President in 
Kabul. But then
the US (and later the Taliban) stepped in to back an alternative 
pipeline project with the US company Unocal.
For a complete timeline on the competing Bridas and Unocal pipelines, 
go to ***
Bridas has since merged with BP Amoco Argentina
Carlos Bulgheroni, co-chairman of Bridas," "Amoco reportedly plans to 
merge South American assets with Bridas of Argentina Amoco has agreed 
to merge its oil and natural-gas business in South
America's southern region with closely held Bridas of Argentina, 
creating a venture with more than $3 billion in assets, people 
familiar with the deal told The Wall Street Journal. The transaction, 
which could be announced as soon as today, will give Amoco 60% of what 
will be Argentina's second-largest oil and natural-gas company, behind 
YPF. Bridas will control 40% of the venture, the people said. The new 
company, which hasn't been named, will have about 750 million barrels 
in proven reserves plus Bridas's large undeveloped acreage in 
Argentina. Because Bridas will contribute properties that are 
considerably more valuable than Amoco's properties, the Chicago-based 
company is expected to pay Bridas hundreds of millions of dollars. 
Neither Amoco nor Bridas would comment on the transaction, and its 
exact terms couldn't be learned. Bridas, controlled by Argentina's 
Bulgheroni family, is currently the nation's third-largest oil and 
natural-gas company, with proven domestic oil reserves of 80 million 
barrels of oil and almost 1.8 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. 
Though the size of Bridas's
reserve portfolio is relatively modest, the company holds valuable 
exploration interests in more than 17 million undeveloped acres, 
mostly in Argentina. The deal doesn't include Bridas's oil and gas 
interests in the Caspian region of Turkmenistan. A continuing dispute 
with the Turkmenistan
government has forced the closure of some of Bridas's fields there. 
Amoco's venture with Bridas will be in a strong position to take 
advantage of South America's fast-growing energy market and surging 
industrial demand for natural gas in Brazil and Chile. Latin American 
energy consumption is growing at about 5% a year and the region has 
largely tapped its available hydropower reserves. Natural gas is seen 
as an attractive alternative to hydropower because it is abundant and 
clean burning. The rush to serve that market has attracted some big 
names over the past two years. Last December, Amoco paid $307 million 
for half of an oil and gas exploration concern broken off from 
Bolivia's state-owned oil company, Yacimientos Petroliferos Fiscales 
Bolivianos. And Spain's Repsol has earmarked some $3 billion for 
regional investments. The transaction concludes a hard-fought auction 
involving a spate of the world's major energy companies. Bidders 
included Exxon Corp., Mobil Corp., Repsol of Spain and France's Total. 
Bridas had originally planned to sell a 45% stake to raise money for 
its Turkmenistan projects. Peter Fritsch and Jonathan Friedland, Staff 
Reporters of The Wall Street Journal"
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conference started on august 31 and will conclude its deliberations on 
September 7.(2001)
"A former Saudi intelligence chief has revealed the contents of a 
letter, written in late August, in which the oil-rich kingdom 
threatened to review ties with its key ally, the United States. The 
letter called on Washington to take active steps towards resolving the 
Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In a rare television interview aired on 
8 November, Prince Turki Al-Faisal described how "Crown Prince 
Abdullah sent a letter to President George W Bush before 11 September, 
in which he stated that relations between the two countries were at a 
crossroads." Prince Turki, who stepped down in August after nearly 25 
years in office as intelligence chief, was interviewed by the 
London-based Middle East Broadcasting Centre (MBC). Prince Abdullah 
"also wrote that the kingdom would be forced to review its ties with 
the United States if the US was not ready to move ahead with finding a 
successful solution to the Middle East conflict," he said. Prince 
Turki described the letter as "strongly worded" and said it was 
"unique in Arab-American relations." He also described the US reaction 
to the letter. "President Bush expressed willingness to enter into 
discussions with the kingdom about arrangements for an equitable and 
comprehensive solution to the Palestinian question," he said."
"An attack on Iraq would cause civilian casualties, Britain's Foreign 
Ministry and Saudi
Arabia's Prince Turki bin Faisal both tell us. collateral damage pales 
in comparison to the
damage Saddam inflicts on his own people, whether gassing five 
thousand of them on one day in 1988 or
assaulting the Shi'ites in Iraq's south for more than a decade. As in 
Afghanistan, an attack on Iraq would be a humanitarian operation that 
the local population will celebrate.. ***Attacks on Iraq may only 
"bolster Saddam's position in Iraq and make the people more supportive 
of him," warns Prince Turki. That's ridiculous. Saddam will not be 
stronger after the United States gets through with him for the simple 
reason that he won't be around at all"
" During the 1980s, the U.S. secretly provided the mujehedin with more 
than $2 billion, making the proxy war against the Soviet forces in 
Afghanistan the biggest U.S. covert operation since World War II 
Authorities say because BCCI's Abedi was so well connected to the 
Pakistani government, the bank played a key role in organizing CIA 
arms shipments from that country to the Afghan rebels. Abedi 
facilitated secret visits by Casey to Islamabad, where Casey conferred 
with Pakistani officials. BCCI had close ties to Pakistani 
intelligence circles. Retired senior Pakistani intelligence officials 
were employed by Attock Oil and International Travel Corporation, 
companies connected to BCCI. The father of Amjad Awan of BCCI-Miami, 
who managed Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega's accounts, was a former 
head of Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence agency BCCI shareholder 
Prince Turki worked hand-in-glove with the CIA in funding the proxy 
war in Afghanistan. Turki, working closely with ISI, distributed more 
than $ 1 billion in Saudi funds to the mujehedin in the 1980s. ISI 
officials, with guidance from the CIA, provided day-to-day military 
advice to the mujehedin."
"Normal relations between the United States and Iraq would serve our 
long-term interests and support stability both in the Gulf and the 
Middle East," stated the top secret (BUSH I ) directive. " During the 
1992 presidential campaign, Gore called the cover up of the secret 
Bush policy to arm Iraq "bigger than Watergate ever was,"
"The Saudi government is not well placed to respond to the radical 
Islamist threat. The kingdom's intelligence and security organizations 
appear to be in flux. At the end of August, Prince Saud's brother, 
Turki, resigned as head of General Intelligence, the Saudi CIA. 
officials say Turki, who was responsible for links with the Taliban in 
Afghanistan, was sacked, but they are at a loss to explain why. The 
new head, Prince Nawaf, seems unqualified apart from being a
half-brother and close confidant of Crown Prince Abdullah, the de 
facto Saudi ruler since King Fahd's health declined in the late 1990s. 
But the crucial personality is the forceful Prince Nayef (a full 
of Fahd and rival of Abdullah), the Saudi minister of interior, 
responsible for internal security as well as border control."
"Turki said that he met bin Laden several times in Saudi Arabia and 
Pakistan before he was stripped of
his Saudi citizenship in 1994. Bin Laden was "a gentle, enthusiastic 
young man, not
talkative and who did not raise his voice while talking. Bin Laden was 
generally a 'nice guy'."
"When jihad started in Afghanistan, I used to travel to Pakistan and 
sometimes to Afghanistan, to follow up
on the developments. It was there that I met him. Once or twice he was 
invited to the Saudi embassy (in
Islamabad). The first time I met him was during one of these 
occasions. He was in the area supporting
jihad," the prince said."
"FBI Told to Back Off Bin Ladens After Bush's Election
LONDON, Nov 7 (News Agencies) - Special agents in the United States
probing relatives of Saudi-born Osama bin Laden before September 11
were told to back off soon after George W. Bush became president, the
BBC reported Tuesday. The BBC's current affairs program, Newsnight, 
said that Bush at one point
had a number of connections with Saudi Arabia's prominent bin Laden
family, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). It added there was a 
suspicion that U.S. strategic interest in Saudi Arabia, which has the 
world's largest oil reserve, dulled its inquiries into
individuals with suspected terrorist connections - so long as the U.S. 
was safe. Newsnight said it had obtained evidence that the FBI was on 
the trail of bin Laden family members living in the United States 
before, as well as after, the September 11 terrorist attacks. It added 
that Bush made his first million 20 years ago with an oil company 
partly funded by the chief U.S. representative of Salem bin Laden, 
Osama's brother. Bush also received fees as director of a subsidiary 
of Carlyle Corporation, a little-known private company which in just a 
few years since its founding has become one of America's biggest 
defense contractors, and his father, former U.S. president George H. 
Bush senior, is also a paid advisor, the program said. The connection 
became embarrassing when it was revealed that the bin Ladens held a 
stake in Carlyle, sold just after September 11, it added. Newsnight 
said it had been told by a highly placed source in a U.S. intelligence 
agency there had always been "constraints" on investigating Saudis, 
but under President George W. Bush it had become much worse. After the 
elections, the intelligence agencies were told to "back off" from 
investigating the bin Laden family, and that angered field agents, the 
program added. The policy was reversed after September 11, it 
reported. The former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah from 
1987 to 1989, Michael Springman, told Newsnight, "In Saudi Arabia I 
was repeatedly ordered by high-level State Department officials to 
issue visas to unqualified applicants. "People who had no ties either 
to Saudi Arabia or to their own country. I complained there. I 
complained here in Washington... to the Inspector General and to 
Diplomatic Security and I was ignored." Newsnight also said it had 
seen a document that showed U.S. special agents were investigating a 
close relative of Osama bin Laden, identified only as Abdullah, 
because of his relationship with the World Assembly of Muslim Youth 
(WAMY), which the program said was a suspected terrorist organization. 
In Riyadh, the former chief of the Saudi Secret Service said that bin 
Laden had no links with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), nor 
with any other U.S. agency. "His presence in the area [Pakistan and 
Afghanistan] and his activities did not call on him to have contacts 
with these bodies," Prince Turki al-Faisal said in an interview with 
the English-language Arab News and London-based Saudi-owned MBC TV. 
"Turki said that he met bin Laden several times in Saudi Arabia and 
Pakistan.Bin Laden is "a gentle, enthusiastic young man, not talkative 
and who didnot raise his voice while talking. Bin Laden is generally a 
'nice guy'," said Turki. .Turki said bin Laden founded al-Qaeda in 
1989 aiming to "defend Muslims all over the world against injustice."
"It shouldn't have taken a sleuth, however, to connect right wing 
extremists to recent acts of terrorism. They've certainly left enough 
breadcrumbs, as they lined up to support the terrorists who destroyed 
the World Trade Center. Since September 11th, representatives of the 
American Nazi Party, the Aryan Nations, Aryan Action and the National 
Alliance have all gone on record supporting al Qaida and the attacks 
against the Twin Towers, which they describe as "buildings full of 
Jews." One white supremacist website carried the question, "Is there 
not a single person who has received these anthrax letters that isn't 
an avowed enemy of the white race?"
Saddam could well be the source of the anthrax attacks in the US 
using as his proxies, American 
and similar kooks. See for instance: Radical Islam, Neo-Nazis Are 
Seen Sharing Hate Rhetoric
"Iraq's germ warfare program was perfected during its war with Iran in 
the 1980s. Little known outside scientific circles is the fact that 
Hussein even experimented on humans, starting around 1985 with 
anthrax." (which he may have obtained from the US) All 
Nuclear and Biological Roads Lead to Iraq's Hussein December 9, 2001
"in February 1998, hundreds of people received an unsolicited E-mail 
message containing one of Pierce's anti-Semitic and racist propaganda 
pieces. The message was a transcript of a recent radio broadcast by
Pierce, entitled "Bill, Monica, and Saddam." In it, Pierce claimed 
that by writing about the Monica Lewinsky affair, the "Jewish media 
bosses" harmed President Clinton, who "would do whatever they told him 
to do," but "had screwed up so many times that he had become a 
liability for them." Pierce also asserted that these "media bosses" 
exaggerate the danger posed by Saddam Hussein so that the United 
States will attack Iraq and aid Israel, adding "the Jews would like to 
have us get rid of Saddam Hussein and cripple Iraq for them." 
Disrupting Discussion Groups *** another harassment tactic employed by 
the organization was the creation of an "Alliance Cybercell," whose 
members disrupted Internet discussion group exchanges, particularly 
those dealing with issues of concern to the Jewish community. During a 
1996 speech to the (National Alliance) NA's Cleveland unit, Pierce 
explained how the (National Alliance) NA cells operated: "We have 
organized members working as teams, not identifying themselves as 
Alliance members but going into these discussion groups and virtually 
taking them over.." Pierce went on to say that cell leaders "decide 
what discussion groups they want to get into-analyze the situation, 
analyze the types of propaganda that have been presented by the other 
side and we go in there and just tear them apart."
Source for material quoted below: Trading with the Enemy: The 
Nazi-American Money Plot, 1933-1949 Charles Higham Format: Hardcover, 
277pp. ISBN: 0760700095 Publisher: Barnes and Noble Books
Pub. Date: November 1995 "W.S.S. Rodgers "linked up with the 
Rockefeller empire by going into Partnership with Harry D. Collier, 
cheerful chairman of Standard Oil Of California and the former Jersey 
Standard employee Jimmy Moffett. Rodgers formed Caltex, which jointly
bought up millions of dollars worth of oil from the arabian sea. The 
banker was James S. Forrestal of the board of the Nazi General Aniline 
and Film,who was about to become Under Secretary of the Navy. Saudi 
Arabia had intricate economic and political links with Hitler. On June 
8th,1939, Khalid Al0-Hud Al Qarqani, royal counselor of Ibn Saud, was 
received by Ribbentrop in Berlin. Ribbentrop expounded to Khalid his 
general sympathy toward the arab world and pointed out that Germany 
and the arabs were linked by a common foe in the shape of the Jews. 
Khalid answered that Ibn Saud attached the greatest importance to 
entering into Relations with Germany.Khalid…stressed that the King
hated the British, who Hemmed him in. By contrast, Khalid stated, Ibn 
Saud was sympathetic toward Mussolini. The conversation ended with 
salaams and Heil Hitlers. At 3:15 p.m. on June 17th,1939, Hitler 
received Khalid Al-Hud at the Berghof. The reception was given 
worldwide attention. As a result of it Emil Puhl and Walther Funk's 
Reichsbank gave Ibn Saud a credit of one and a half million
Reichsmarks from Hitler's personal treasury for the purchase of 8,000 
rifles, 8 million rounds of ammunition, light anti-aircraft guns, 
armored cars, a special Merecedes for the king and The building for a 
munitions factory. Soon after ard Emil Phul arranged a further loan of 
6 million marks that was paid in installments for the rest of the war. 
" "On November 28th,1941...the Grand Mufti of Jeruslaem, among the 
bitterest enemies of the Jews, met with the Fuhrer in Berlin. The 
Grand Mufti, with the authorization of the Arab world, expressed his 
admiration of Hitler and named the same enemies: the English, the Jews 
and the communists. He promised to guarantee assistance in war by acts
of sabotage and revolution. He offered to raise the Arab Legion from 
all available Moslem men of military age"
"Iraq has the motivation and the means to actively support the 
Islamist networks of the region*** In the past, there have been 
intelligence reports of possible cooperation between Iraq and Osama
bin Laden. Iraq has already tried to assassinate President Bush Senior 
in 1993, when he visited Kuwait as a private citizen. In the attack on 
the USS Cole in Aden (in) October (of 2000), there could have been an 
Iraqi connection. Iraq has excellent relations with the anti-Western 
Yemeni Islamists of the Army of Aden-Abyan, whose militants have been 
arrested by the Yemenite authorities in connection with the attack. 
Such an attack required long preparations, technical and military 
skills and good operational intelligence. In addition, the explosive 
used in the attack was sophisticated, a "shaped charge" like a torpedo 
or a missile, a device not in use by terrorist organizations, and 
which may have come from a military stockpile." "This is why the 
dismissal of Saudi Arabia's longtime chief of intelligence, Prince 
Turki al Faisal, two weeks after the September 11th attack, takes on 
significance. It was Prince Turki who, as the Washington Post 
reported, "helped nurture the Afghan resistance movement that begot 
the country's Taliban leadership."
"Several days before the September 11 attacks, the Saudi chief of 
intelligence, who held that post for 25 years, Prince Turki, brother 
of the Saudi foreign minister, was abruptly fired from his post. Turki 
was hardly a man to be dismissed in such fashion; he was responsible 
for Saudi affairs with Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the Saudi liaison 
with American intelligence services. It seems that Turki was the first 
high-ranking victim of a power struggle between two competing factions 
in the Saudi royal family over how to deal with American requests to 
neutralise bin Laden. Turki's removal from authority portended further 
upheaval within the ruling elite of the House of Saud. Only two weeks 
later, and a week after the attack on America, reliable reports 
strongly suggest that the ailing King Fahd flew to Geneva with a 
massive entourage and now remains secluded behind the heavily 
protected walls of private estates registered in the name of his 
European business partners. To bin Laden, King Fahd's departure can 
only be considered a victory in his campaign to rid Saudi Arabia of 
the contamination of American rule through their surrogates in the 
House of Saud. With King Fahd's health maintained on a 24-hour medical 
watch, and the Saudi royal family divided between the conservative, 
religious faction of Crown Prince Abdullah and that of the defence 
minister, King Fahd's full brother, Prince Sultan, Saudi Arabia's 
future political course and, with it, the stability of the Gulf is 
about to be decided.*** He is the scion of a family, led by his 
father, Mohamed, that, in the mid-1960s, engineered the transfer of 
the Saudi throne away from the corrupt King Saud to the pious King 
Faisal. In effect, Mohamed bin Laden was a king-maker and his son grew 
up with an intimate knowledge of the personal proclivities and 
weaknesses of the senior members of the ruling elite."ARAFAT'S UNCLE, 
Saudis suggest Saddam had role in Sept. 11 attacks
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 ABU DHABI - For the first time, Saudi 
Arabia has hinted that Iraq
could be involved in the Islamic suicide attacks on New York and 
Washington. Saudi Arabia continues to be split over how to respond to 
heavy criticism for its support of Osama Bin Laden. Now Saudi 
officials are privately suggesting that a Middle East power, probably 
Iraq, was behind the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States. The 
officials have not named Iraq or its president, Saddam Hussein, 
publicly. Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz broke 
Riyad's silence on the identities of the attackers and their sponsors, 
Middle East Newsline reported. Sultan is regarded as the most
pro-American figure in the Saudi leadership. "Therefore, the big 
question arises: Who stands
behind this terrorism and who carried out this complicated and 
carefully planned terrorist
operation?" Prince Sultan told the Kuwaiti-based A-Siyassi daily. 
"Osama Bin Laden and those with
him have said what indicates that they stand behind this carefully 
planned act. We, in turn, ask: Are Bin
Laden and his supporters the only ones behind what happened or is 
there another power with
advanced technical expertise that acted with them?" Saudi allies in 
the Gulf region, particularly Kuwait
and Oman, are also trying to *** (draw) attention toward Iraq. 
***Sultan is engaged in a struggle for succession as King Fahd's 
health continues to decline. The defense minister's rival for the 
throne is his half-brother, Crown Prince Abdullah. Abdullah's ally is 
said to be Interior Minister Prince Nayef *** The statement by the 
defense minister came hours before the arrival of German Foreign 
Minister Joschka Fischer to Riyad. *** "